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Leno out, Fallon in perhaps?

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by scottjf8, Mar 3, 2013.

  1. Mar 16, 2013 #41 of 123
    wmcbrine

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    But he always did that sort of joke, his entire run. Letterman even more so. Ferguson as well. It's... normal.
     
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    JYoung

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    The article also supplies the relevant reason as to why it's a non-issue at this time.
    Now, if Kimmel starts beating Leno consistently, well.......


    wmcbrine is right though.
    Leno's done it plenty of times over the years, even before 2009.
    Letterman has done it his entire late night career.
    So has Kimmel, Fergusen, and O'Brien.

    Even Carson took shots at NBC and it's management in his monologues.
     
  4. Mar 16, 2013 #44 of 123
    Peter000

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    Put Pat Sajak in for Leno!

    :D
     
  5. Mar 16, 2013 #45 of 123
    DevdogAZ

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    It's a sign that Leno is doing the something he's always done, plus what every other late-night host has done. That's all it's a sign of.
     
  6. Mar 18, 2013 #46 of 123
    aindik

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    That would be awesome, but you also have to remember that Howard is only 4 years younger than Leno.
     
  7. Mar 20, 2013 #47 of 123
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    aindik

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    Philadelphia...
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    LoadStar

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    Moving to NY would allow them to continue their plans to sunset the Burbank Studios, as they had planned to years ago.

    The only productions left would be Access Hollywood/Access Hollywood Live, which are produced by KNBC and I would guess would likely move to the new KNBC facility on the Universal lot when it opens next year, and Days of Our Lives, which frankly is on borrowed time (given the current market for daytime soaps).
     
  10. Mar 20, 2013 #50 of 123
    DevdogAZ

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    And not having an 11:35 pm late show based in LA would be on par with all the other horrible decisions NBC brass has made of late.
     
  11. Mar 20, 2013 #51 of 123
    zalusky

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    And that matters because?
     
  12. Mar 20, 2013 #52 of 123
    mattack

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    it matters because *the actors who are on late night talk shows* are mostly in L.A.
     
  13. Mar 20, 2013 #53 of 123
    zalusky

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    That's kind of arrogant! Actors go on marketing junkets all over the place. If anything it allows them to hit Letterman, Fallon, the view, daily show, today, gma, actors studio, Kelley and Michael within a day or so. How much does LA have?


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  14. Mar 20, 2013 #54 of 123
    DevdogAZ

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    Exactly. Far more of the talent is based in LA. When most of them appear on Letterman and Fallon and Today and Kelly and Michael, it's within a day or two of each other while they're on a promotional trip to NYC.

    Edit: I see you zalusky already realized this point, but it means that the NY shows don't have a lot of flexibility in booking guests. They have to take what they can get based on promo junkets and it's always within days of their appearances on all the other shows, so it minimizes the exclusivity of that appearance.
     
  15. Mar 21, 2013 #55 of 123
    JYoung

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    Enough where Kimmel can have Matt Damon, Ben Afleck, Sheryl Crow, Andy Garcia, Demi Moore, Robin Williams. Nicole Kidman, Gary Oldman, Reese Witherspoon, and Amy Adams all on the same night, just because.
     
  16. Mar 21, 2013 #56 of 123
    zalusky

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    SNL does that now and then as well. Look at the recent Timberlake 5 time celebration.

    Kimmel had ABC behind him big time. They want the lead at night big time just like they won it in the morning for GMA and they were willing to pull out all the stops.

    I still don't consider LA vs NY a big deal. Actors go where they get the most eyeballs.
     
  17. Mar 21, 2013 #57 of 123
    JohnB1000

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    If this is so bad, how are Letterman and Fallon surviving now ?

    Add one more show and NY becomes a better market for "talk show appearances".
     
  18. Mar 21, 2013 #58 of 123
    lew

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    Stars on tour to promote a show make a stop in NYC. The same star isn't usually on two different late night, same time slot, shows the same week.

    Being in LA gives the show a number of stars (and near stars) available for sketches even if they don't have something to plug and aren't making a publicity tour. Letterman only has Regis. Kimmel uses a number of stars--JYoung already gave us a list. There is a reason why Carson moved the show to LA years ago.
     
  19. Mar 21, 2013 #59 of 123
    DevdogAZ

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    There's a relative balance now because there is one prime late show (Letterman), one sub-prime late show (Fallon) and then a smattering of other cable shows and morning shows. The A-list guests from LA usually go to NYC and do Letterman first, then Fallon and the other shows a night or two later. They do the west coast shows a week before or a week later, so the competing shows don't usually have identical guests on consecutive nights.

    Add in another prime late show (Tonight) in NYC and you'll then have bigger competition for the A-list guests on NYC promo tours, and you'll end up with guests being on Letterman one night and Tonight the next, or vice versa. That's not good for either show, if there isn't some separation between the appearances during the same time slot.
     
  20. Mar 21, 2013 #60 of 123
    JYoung

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    You're missing the point.
    While I believe all of the Timberlake 5 walk on guests live in the New York area, more stars live in the LA area so it's easier to get them on the LA based shows.

    Plus as DevdogAZ points out, two 11:30 late night shows in New York will be going head to head for a more limited pool of guests.
    (Although I'm starting to wonder if that's what Lorne Michaels wants.)

    Being in Los Angeles also allows someone like Jim Parsons to pop in for a chat to plug the latest episode of his show while it's in production or Matt Damon to show up just because.

    Carson recognized the value of being able to have Don Rickles be able to walk on unannounced.

    (sorry for the ad at the beginning for those who have to click the link)

     

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