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Last Resort - "Captain" - 9/27/12

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by caslu, Sep 27, 2012.

  1. Oct 4, 2012 #181 of 195
    newsposter

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    just cause i have boxes of pinhole cameras and hundreds of feet of cable in my carpeted van doesnt mean i am twisted
     
  2. Oct 4, 2012 #182 of 195
    eddyj

    eddyj SeƱor Member TCF Club

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  3. Oct 4, 2012 #183 of 195
    justen_m

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    About 20 years ago I served on USS Nevada, SSBN-733, an Ohio-class boomer. It just got out of 2.5 _years_ in Bremerton, undergoing an engineering refueling and overhaul. I wouldn't be surprised to see her in service past 2029. Especially with the staggering cost of replacements.

    I really enjoyed the show. I can shut my brain off and not nitpick, or, just laugh at the inaccuracies. I treat the show more as sf that takes place in the near future, like a Tom Clancy novel, and don't have much problem ignoring some technical details, like tech we don't have, or capabilities beyond the present day.

    For example, who is to say Colorado isn't carrying yet to be developed D6 Trident III missiles? Or the TLAM-N has been reintroduced as a subsurface attack version that is a nuclear torpedo? Or we've got ASROCs again? Colorado has a fictional loadout as there aren't any Ohio's that carry Tomahawks and Tridents. The Ohio SSGN conversions have 2 tubes for SEAL ops, and 22 tubes with 7 Tomahawks each.

    Nevada, for example, originally had C4 Tridents but just got D5 Trident IIs as part of her overhaul. D5s have a significantly longer range than C4s. Maybe a fictional D6 has an even longer range.
     
  4. Oct 4, 2012 #184 of 195
    TAsunder

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    I would guess that most of the time the actual screen being filmed does not have anything on it of note and they are adding the screens in later. It is annoying to film a computer monitor. Maybe it's gotten a lot better but it doesn't seem worth the effort to make a screen actually have the content we see on the screen.
     
  5. Oct 4, 2012 #185 of 195
    DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give em Hell, Devils

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    Surprisde nobody responded to this. That only works if you're a Nielsen household, and those people definitely know who they are. Just watching the show on your DVR sometime within 3 days after it airs won't help the ratings at all if you're not a Nielsen household.
    I think that's exactly what's going to be going on. Current POTUS is trying to start a war so that the impeachment folks will back off. And I think it's pretty clear the SEALs were carrying out the first part of that plan, which is what led to the nukes being fired at Pakistan.
    My thoughts exactly. He's just destroyed the east-coast fishing industry for the next generation. That's not going to be taken lightly.
    What was the problem with that? It's not like they were trying to hide. The Navy knew where they were (the bombers were coming for them) and then when he released that video, he clearly stated to the world where they were. No reason they should care that their calls to their loved ones were being traced.


    I really enjoyed the show. My only concern is that its in a brutally-competitive timeslot where ABC hasn't had any success in years (Missing, Charlie's Angels, My Generation, Flash Forward, Threat Matrix, etc.). I really wish they would have put this show at 10 pm where it would have faced less competition. I also think 8 pm is kind of early in the evening for something that's intended to be action-packed and intense. Not that there's anything inappropriate, but that usually the 8 pm shows are a little lighter as people are still settling in from work, eating dinner, getting kids to bed, etc. I sure hope ratings for tonights episode hold up.
     
  6. Oct 4, 2012 #186 of 195
    TAsunder

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    I agree about the 8pm thing. I was really surprised that they chose such an early time slot for this.
     
  7. Oct 4, 2012 #187 of 195
    DreadPirateRob

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    Agreed. It definitely seems like a 9 pm/10 pm show to me.
     
  8. Oct 4, 2012 #188 of 195
    brianric

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    You will not see extension of life on the Ohio class due to the fact that a refuel is needed to extend their lives. The reactor core on the Ohio class was designed for twenty years, so one refueling was required for the 40 year life of the sub. Ideally there was suppose to be 12 boomers at any one time, four out at sea, four in training, and four in port/overhaul. Unfortunately Obama delayed by two years in the boomer replacement, so the first replacement won't take place until 2031. By that time the Navy will be down to 10 boomers. It will take the Navy 14 years to get back to an ideal 12 boomers, based on a 40 year life cycle of the reactor core.
     
  9. Oct 4, 2012 #189 of 195
    mattack

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    !@$ Lost used an Apple II, but the screens it put out (which IIRC were a vaguely plausible text font on a green screen) used some wonky smooth scrolling thing that doesn't exist.

    BLECK. Do it right or don't do it at all.
     
  10. Oct 5, 2012 #190 of 195
    Hunter Green

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    You win the thread.
     
  11. Oct 6, 2012 #191 of 195
    Ereth

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    Yes. The Navy has specific language they use. It isn't optional. There are no latrines and nobody in the Navy for any length of time would use that word. Marines also use the word "head", so nobody on that vessel would ever use the word "latrine".
     
  12. Oct 6, 2012 #192 of 195
    justen_m

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    Marines are sailors. They speak like us Ereth.

    But special ops on sups? My dad (us army mediic nam) and uncle (same) have different lingo than us squids. Are all the Seals acutally SEALs? Marine corps force recon and army rangers could be there too. DELETING STUFF.
     
  13. Oct 6, 2012 #193 of 195
    Ereth

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    Perhaps, but the person who used the word latrine was the Chief of the Boat, was it not? Find me a Master Chief who has ever used the phrase "latrine duty". (And I say this as the son of a Master Chief).
     
  14. Oct 6, 2012 #194 of 195
    justen_m

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    Yeah, you are right there. I can't even imagine a COB who would use that term. But that was on boomers. Other than at Annapolis, we had zero ground training. Maybe on Nimitz's it was different? You ever fly Vikings and have time on one them?

    On Nevada, we just assumed that if we launched, we were all dead, and everyone we knew was dead, too. Curious, did you have orders for after the launch? I mean, I assume we had some, but I wasn't privy to that.
     
  15. Oct 7, 2012 #195 of 195
    Ereth

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    Nope. No haze-gray and underway for me. I never flew in a plane that had a tailhook. (I flew with a guy who transitioned from S-3 to P-3, and he was on Nimitz during "The Final Countdown" filming, and also the crossing of the line-of-death that got the F-14s the 2 kills of Libyan fighters).

    I assume you've read "On the Beach".

    Our orders, as ASW, were very specific and unpleasant.

    I always thought it was rather appropriate that we always chased the Boomers and the S-3s and Helos chased the Fast Attacks (generally). In each case, the platform you are chasing was designed to eliminate your home, and you've have no place to land if they succeeded. Definite incentive there. :)

    But really, I'm sure we had the same thought. If you fired, and the Soviets fired, was there anybody who actually WANTED to survive to go home? The world was not going to be a very good place after that.

    Even the nukes that went into Pakistan in this TV show (and the one offshore on the East Coast) are going to be significant issues if the writers aren't complete idiots. (Wait, we did a nuclear first strike on a nuclear capable country, without any warning or buildup... ok, the writers ARE idiots, nevermind).
     

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