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Lack of Complaints with 20.2

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by donnoh, Jan 13, 2012.

  1. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    But you can. In the HDUI, when in Search, press the "A" button, then select your options. If you want to filter by category, choose that option and select which categories. I think they need MORE categories, but the option is there. It might be a bit of effort to do all that, but I like not having to enter through all the options stuff EVERY TIME I want to search for something, like we used to have to do (because 95% of the time, I search by title and want to search across everything).
     
  2. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

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    I think you missed my point. If TiVo sold a DVR with 1TB drives in it for $99 (less at places like Amazon) people would by the DVR just to get a cheap 1TB drive. So unless TiVo would like people buying DVRs to rip apart for parts there is no way they could offer a bigger drive in whatever DVR they were selling at $99, until after drives drop in price again. Heck I bet there are more than a few Premieres that were bought only to have for spare parts specially when Amazon sold them for close to $50 at one point.
     
  3. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    OK, I think I see what you mean. Even though the purchase price is not really what the total cost is for MOST people, one could still buy it and never activate it, so there would never be a forced early termination fee. It is a bit different than a cell phone, for example, where you can't walk out the door with your "$99" phone (which is really a $500 phone) without having already signed a contract.
     
  4. TomTech

    TomTech New Member

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    I totally understand. The Premier I just setup was bought on Craigslist for $40. I expected the worst case scenario was I just bought a 320G drive for $40...

    So...While on the subject of Hard Drives....I just got word from TiVo support that says they don't sell the 1TB WD External anymore...some sort of issue with them...Any clues on where to get one at the least price possible?
     
  5. jaquade

    jaquade New Member

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    No Complaints only a question. I have 20.2 on both of my Premiere's, thanks to chatting with customer service and getting on the priority list. I can't MRS yet, how long after getting the updates does it take for Tivo to turn on MRS?
     
  6. innocentfreak

    innocentfreak Active Member

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    MRS will probably be turned on for everyone once the roll out is complete which they expect by next Wednesday.
     
  7. wmcbrine

    wmcbrine Ziphead

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    You want complaints? I got 'em. The first three things I tried were busted, basically:

    - I played my Reversi game. The display was slightly messed up, which wasn't a big deal. Then, the TiVo crashed, which was a huge deal.
    - I tried transferring some programs back and forth. Two problems there:
    -- Metadata is messed up in a big way. Many (in fact most) items are not transferred back to the TiVo, not even using a genuine .TiVo file pulled off of it moments before (and verified to contain the items).
    -- All transfers are throttled to around 20 Mbps.

    At least these are my initial experiences. Not good.
     
  8. L David Matheny

    L David Matheny Active Member

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    I don't do games, and any throttling could be to avoid hogging the network. (OK, I'm an optimist.) But bad metadata is an embarrassing problem that TiVo needs to fix. I haven't transferred anything lately, and some people may never notice, but if the data is there originally, it should be exported and imported. No excuses.

    And I wish they would keep a few more data items, like the number of uncorrected errors that occurred as the show was received. That one would enable them to automatically reschedule shows that are received incomplete or with too many errors.
     
  9. wmcbrine

    wmcbrine Ziphead

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    It doesn't matter if you do games, the bugs apply to all HME apps.

    I believe I was wrong about the throttling, sorry.
     
  10. gonzotek

    gonzotek tivo_xml developer

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    I've been using streambaby quite a bit since 20.2 hit my premieres, haven't had a crash yet. I'll try Reversi later tonight. Are there any steps guaranteed to reproduce or will it pretty much happen on its own if I just enter and exit the app? If I can reproduce, would you find the logs, or anything else, useful?
     
  11. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    Actually 20.2 did break closed captions in streambaby. That's the first HME app where I noticed 20.2 broke something. I had to make a new version of streambaby with more closed captioning options to workaround the problem. See this thread for the gory details:
    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=481529
     
  12. gonzotek

    gonzotek tivo_xml developer

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    Yeah, I'm following it already. :) I don't use captions, so I'm lucky that hasn't affected me. But I was answering to william's crash report, I haven't seen any crashes with 20.2 on my two premieres, in hme apps or other areas.
     
  13. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    I transferred several shows on Saturday Premiere to Premiere .Mine did seem a little slower than normal but I was getting around 70mb/s instead of the normal 80 to 90mb/s transfer rates.
     
  14. wmcbrine

    wmcbrine Ziphead

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    That's what I'm seeing now, too (from a wired computer).
     
  15. innocentfreak

    innocentfreak Active Member

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    I thought someone, it might even be in the FAQ, said the transfers might slow down when dual core was enabled.
     
  16. wmcbrine

    wmcbrine Ziphead

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    The transfers sped way up when dual core was enabled, which was in 14.9. Now they've come back down a little, but are still well above where they were, IIRC.

    I've only had it crash once so far. I was able to play with no crashes later. But, I did nothing special.
     
  17. innocentfreak

    innocentfreak Active Member

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    I thought Aaronwt was always getting the same speeds until 20.2. I believe I have always averaged around 70-80mb/s, but I will double check when I get home.

    I wonder also then if they capped it to try to avoid reboots. By setting a cap, potentially couldn't they leave room for TiVo to always reach the TiVo servers?
     
  18. wmcbrine

    wmcbrine Ziphead

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    I should say, transfers of program streams (which need to be remuxed) sped up in 14.9. I think you're right that MP4 pushes were always about that fast, but I didn't keep a record.
     
  19. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    Eeeek! Someone decide exactly what changed with network speed so I can properly document it :)

    (I changed it three times so far)
     
  20. Dr_Diablo

    Dr_Diablo Dr_Diablo

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    the rep had me to press plause an the Yivo button til they blinked three times then release to reset the remote for what ever that does
     

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