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kmttg & Tivo Desktop

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by Joe Siegler, Sep 7, 2013.

  1. Sep 7, 2013 #1 of 48
    Joe Siegler

    Joe Siegler New Member

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    Some n00b kmttg questions here, so please forgive if they seem green.

    For ages I've been a user (if not a proponent) of TiVo Desktop. Even paid for it many years ago. It's been what I've needed to use simply because I used it almost exclusively for just transferring programs back and forth from my TiVos to my desktop where I have quite a truckload of saved stuff.

    Anyways, tonight I looked at kmttg, and have to say it's much improved over the last time I used it. I'm considering using just that for my transfers over desktop, because of the radically larger amount of info and options available to me. There's one other beef with TiVo Desktop is that some shows that we keep on the TiVo's (mostly kids shows like Dinosaur Train, stuff like that) have a habit of just being transferred again for no apparent reason, I'd like to stop that.

    To that, if I go that route, what do I need to do in terms of uninstalling Tivo Desktop? If I just uninstall TiVo Desktop, will that leave my computer in a state where I can watch the .tivo files on my desktop, and also leave it where I can see what's on my desktop from the TiVo's elsewhere in the house?

    Or if I uninstall TiVo Desktop, is there something I need to add on to kmttg to replicate the "server" function? (again sorry if I'm not using the terms right).

    I suppose the other option would be to disable all auto transfers in TiVo Desktop, and then just leave it alone, never running desktop, but I suspect that's not the recommended way of doing this.

    Tkx for any info.
     
  2. Sep 7, 2013 #2 of 48
    waynomo

    waynomo My One Time TCF Club

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    That's basically what I've been doing for several years now. I do usually have the TiVo Desktop server paused. I see no reason to uninstall it. I use it to xfer shows back to my TiVo. There are other ways, but that works for me.
     
  3. Sep 7, 2013 #3 of 48
    Joe Siegler

    Joe Siegler New Member

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    If you leave it paused, then how do the TiVos see the computer to pull shows? I don't want to come in and turn it on only when I want to transfer something, I want that to be available all the time. One never knows when the mood might strike to transfer something. If I'm sitting there with the remote, I'll find something else vs getting up and walking across the house to restart the server just for that.

    Yeah, I know #firstworldproblems
     
  4. Sep 7, 2013 #4 of 48
    ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    I replaced TDP with PyTivo and KMTTG. With PyTivo, now I can have several folders to get the videos from on the Tivo, where as TDP only has a meeger single folder, and much less functions. PyTivo has more. I even have transferred .mp4, .mkv files also.

    I have also initiated a download from the iPad and it gets downloaded to my PC. TDP cannot do that.

    You would not even need TDP installed, not even a partial uninstall is needed if you were to use the decrypt function in KMTTG. They would be a .mpg MPEG2 file instead of .TiVo.
     
  5. Sep 7, 2013 #5 of 48
    Joe Siegler

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    OK, I'm confused by that. ARe you saying I would need TDP installed or NOT installed?
     
  6. Sep 7, 2013 #6 of 48
    ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    You would not need Desktop at all if you used PyTivo (instead) to allow copying back to Tivo.
     
  7. Sep 7, 2013 #7 of 48
    Joe Siegler

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    OK, I'll give this combo a go, foregoing TDP. See how I get along after doing it the other way for many years.
     
  8. Sep 7, 2013 #8 of 48
    ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    I've been using PyTivo for years now, ever since Tivo Desktop's Tivoserver.exe quit working, so I uninstalled it and installed PyTivo. the only hard part is the setting up, but once that is done, it really flies.
     
  9. Sep 7, 2013 #9 of 48
    Joe Siegler

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    I had a cheat the old way. I had videos in two places. I pointed TDP to the standard TiVo directory, but all the uh, "other" video I had was elsewhere. In the TDP sanctioned directory, I had a shortcut to the other. It worked fine when using TDP. Will have to see if pyTiVo respects that.

    That was my way around "TDP can only look at one directory".
     
  10. ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    I had about 5 folder show up on my Tivos and they all work to their respective folders on the PC. Another plus is KMTTG can push with PyTivo, doubt TD can do that.
     
  11. ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    Get the WmcBrine version, think it was easier to setup.
     
  12. Joe Siegler

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    I'm already setup. Once I get done doing what I'm doing, I'll go check it out. :)
     
  13. waynomo

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    My TiVo can still see and transfer files from the PC with the desktop server paused.
     
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    pyTivo doesn't speak Windows shortcuts. Instead, point pyTivo directly at the directory you need, or else make a true filesystem-level link.
     
  15. unitron

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    I've got a Buffalo Linkstation (NAS drive) and I discovered that I can put a short cut to it inside the My TiVo Recordings folder and any .tivo files on it are available to my TiVos just like the other .tivo files in there.

    Unfortunately it's only 500GB.

    Hardly worth bothering with.
     
  16. ggieseke

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    If you uninstall Desktop, I'd use the Remove Partial option. That way it leaves the decryption layer behind so that you can still play files on the PC with Media Player. VideoReDo also needs that layer to load .TiVo files.
     
  17. ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    Yes, but if you were to put the .TiVo files onto another PC without TD installed/partial uninstall, it would not play there.
     
  18. Joe Siegler

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    If I fully go that route, what I'll probably do is just leave TDP installed, and just preventing it from running at startup. JUST IN CASE something unforseen comes up and I'd need it. Figure it can't hurt to leave it there, not like HD space is an issue in 2013 anymore. :)

    I got it all up and running last night. Need to solve a port problem, as my push to TiVo isn't working, and from what I can gather, that's usually up to a port on the computer's firewall.
     
  19. ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    TD will still reside in PC hogging memory, but with KMTTG's Decrypt function, its totally unnecessary. I think PyTivo needs autopush.jar to setup push.
     
  20. Joe Siegler

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    It won't be in memory if I turn the service off, and prevent all the various bits from running in startup. :)
     

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