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kmttg disk space feature

Discussion in 'TiVo Home Media Features & TiVoToGo' started by tvmaster2, May 13, 2017.

  1. tvmaster2

    tvmaster2 Well-Known Member

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    I'm using kmttg v2.2n to estimate available disk space on various Tivo's in my house. Although my Tivo HD with 250gb drive shows 47gb free (if i've set up kmttg properly), the HD is not allowing me to transfer any more material to it, saying "i'm full".
    Any thoughts on where the desprepency lies?
     
  2. ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    A 250GB drive does not have the full 250GB of storage space. You must also account for the Tivo system and other things.

    I have the same model of Series 3 HD, except I have a 1TB drive in it and the max storage space I have is 910GB.
     
  3. ClearToLand

    ClearToLand Old !*#$% Tinkerer!

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    Although I was POSITIVE, when I initially installed kmttg and pyTiVo back in February 2016, that kmttg 'auto-magically ' retrieved the total HDD size from my Roamio Basic, recently, when I began using kmttg again and upgraded to the latest version - I stopped because the HDD in the laptop originally running it died - my newer Roamio OTA was never reporting FREE space and I was looking for reports of a bug in kmttg.

    Well, IME, just about anything I could want, or think of, has already been implemented and documented by Kevin / @moyekj. :handok:

    @tvmaster2, go to the kmttg 'Disk Usage' tab, enter the 'Total Disk Space (GB):' (AVAILABLE - not necessarily what's printed on the HDD label) for each unit and see how that works out for you. ;)
     
  4. ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    With Premiere and newer Tivo, KMTTG can 'Auto-magically' adjust the available disk space, simply by going into KMTTG's Remote tab, INFO and with the Tivo selected, press Refresh. (just need to do this once.)

    When you go back to that Tivo and click the Disk usage button, its set.
     
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  5. tvmaster2

    tvmaster2 Well-Known Member

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    OK, but since the Tivo HD doesn't have that 'auto-magically' feature, what's the best way to estimate remaining disk space on a HD?
     
  6. tvmaster2

    tvmaster2 Well-Known Member

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    Hi - that's exactly what I did - entered 250gb under the 'Total Disk Space' tab. that's where it tells me I've got 43gb left, but in reality, no more space seems to be available.
     
  7. ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    I did it the hard way. I recovered everything from the Recently deleted folder and transferred over a few small (about 1 min) video files to the Tivo, and deleted them. Filling up the Tivo with videos until the recently deleted folder emptied out.
    Then refreshing the S3 playlist getting the most out of it.
     
  8. ClearToLand

    ClearToLand Old !*#$% Tinkerer!

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    Thanks! :thumbsup:

    Like I said, Kevin has thought about EVERYTHING - if only I could find, and then remember, it all... :rolleyes:

    This tip will come in handy once my HDD upgrades are completed.
     
  9. tvmaster2

    tvmaster2 Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, who's Kevin? And my question was primarily about a HD, so no magic button for me :( lol
     
  10. tvmaster2

    tvmaster2 Well-Known Member

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    Wow, that's way more commitment than I think I have time for. I guess I'll just have to keep filling until it stops. Does the recently deleted folder actually eat drive space, or is it like a PC in that it's just marked for deletion by incoming or new recordings/ transfers?
     
  11. ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    It clears enough space for recordings or transfers.
     
  12. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Kevin is the developer of kmttg.
     
  13. tvmaster2

    tvmaster2 Well-Known Member

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    ah, ok. thanks. lol. it's a useful little tool for sure.
     
  14. ej42137

    ej42137 Well-Known Member

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    You could just subtract 47 GB from 250 GB to estimate your total space. Your TiVo seems to be telling you you don't have any free space now, so that 47 GB is space you don't have.
     
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  15. ggieseke

    ggieseke Well-Known Member

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    Use MFSTools or WinMFS to look at the partition table and find the length in sectors of the media partitions. On a TCD648250 that's 216,747,657 and 268,618,405.
    Round those sizes down to even multiples of 1024 sectors. Don't ask why, just do it because TiVo does. Now there are 216,747,008 and 268,617,728 sectors left.
    Multiply by 512 to convert sectors to bytes. Now you have 110,974,468,096 and 137,532,276,736 bytes.
    The minimum block size in the media zones is 10MB (10,485,760 bytes), so round each zone down to even multiples of 10MB to get the usable recording space.
    What's left (110,970,798,080 and 137,531,228,160 bytes) adds up to 248,502,026,240 bytes, or 231.435546875 GB.

    That's the total space available for recordings. Take your best guess as to how much Teleworld ads will consume even if you 'supersized' the drive and subtract it. Now take an even bigger guess as to how much space is unused at the end of each recording given the 10MB block size, multiply by the number of recordings, and subtract again.

    :rolleyes: That's probably the best advice you'll get. I'd probably tell kmttg you have 200 GB just to be safe.
     
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  16. tvmaster2

    tvmaster2 Well-Known Member

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    Brilliant. Thanks for all that. It's coming down to the decommission wire, so i'm trying to squeeze as much time-capsule material onto any eligible device :)
     

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