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Kitchen Nightmares Vs Restaurant:Impossible.

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by TonyTheTiger, Jul 3, 2013.

  1. kaszeta

    kaszeta Fjohürs Lykkewe TCF Club

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    The tracking link above on FoodNetworkGossip gives locations. The only Phoenix-areas one was Sapori D'Italia in Fountain Hills, which is apparently doing quite well.
     
  2. pmyers

    pmyers Active Member

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    Thanks...silly the actual foodnetwork website doesn't have a list.
     
  3. nickels

    nickels opinionated dope

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    I am friends with the daughter of the owner of this place. It is closing on Sunday. Sad that it didn't work out.
     
  4. Mikeyis4dcats

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    bummer. Looks from the recent reviews they actually turned it around quality-wise. Just too far in a hole to begin with?
     
  5. Dawghows

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    It is nice. That was my thinking reading through this thread; it's not so much a question of how many of these places closed. The question is how many of them closed as a result of the changes made for the show. My guess is very, very few.

    I have to figure if they're calling in GR or RI for a makeover, they must be in pretty dire straits to begin with. I don't watch either of these shows a whole lot, so I'm not sure how much they speak to this. But if things were already looking promising for your restaurant, you wouldn't be on these shows in the first place, right?
     
  6. nickels

    nickels opinionated dope

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    My friend's message on FB didn't get into details, just a fond farewell and some nice words about growing up there and and how much it meant to her. I don't think they blame RI at all. Most of these places are deep in debt by the time RI gets there, and no amount of fixing can save those places.

    Here is the message she left, it wasn't something that she would mind sharing or I wouldn't repost it here:
    This Sunday my parents will close down their restaurant of 27+ years. It's been a part of (well nearly) my entire life. It was my first job, a place we celebrated special occasions, some of my closest friends have worked there, it's how I met and lost my husband, it's how I was fed most days and how I sometimes feed my own kids and it has been a much needed source of income as well as a distraction from some of the tough spots in my life. Sunday will be the end of an amazing ride. My parents are extraordinary people. They taught me the value of hard work and they have helped me tremendously throughout the years. I cannot thank them enough for all of the love and support they have given to me. I am so proud of my parents for always being reputable business owners and for always supporting the local community. They consistently did what they could for others. My respect for them is insurmountable. If you have any fond memories of them or the restaurant please feel free to post. Also, if you have time this week, try to stop by the store to bid them farewell. Maybe even grab one last pizza....They as well as I would appreciate it! Much love to my parents- John and Butzy Hurley! You've done great...now enjoy some time off!
     
  7. Worf

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    I wonder what it's like for those surveillance and renewal versions of those kind of shows like Restaurant Stakeout and Mystery Diners...
     
  8. pmyers

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    Wasn't it Stakeout that has been proven to be all fake and staged?
     
  9. Grasshopper AZ

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    Mystery Diners is. They did an episode at Hans Murphys in Glendale and it was completely fake and staged. Even the "employee" who was caught stealing liquor was an actor.
     
  10. Big Deficit

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    Reality TV is never real....real is too boring for TV.
     
  11. pmyers

    pmyers Active Member

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    Understood...but there are different levels of "fake". That mystery diner's was fake from top to bottom.
     
  12. Worf

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    Was it fake, or merely re-enacted? I mean, is it fake because it was completely made up fiction, or is it fake because it really happened, but they simply re-staged the event and recorded it on TV? Perhaps with editing for length?

    (Though, Business Evaluation Services is apparently a real company that does do these techniques...)
     
  13. pmyers

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  14. Worf

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    Oddly, the links in that threat point to Restaurant Stakeout?!?
     
  15. timr_42

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    RI did an episode at a place very close to me in St Louis a year or so back.

    I had ate there before RI, but have not ate there since the show, so I don't know if it improved or not.

    The thing I found very funny(i know it was for the show), was Irvine was going to go out and talk to people about the restaurant . So, he gets in his car and drives (showing him in the car), Next scene shows him at his arrival place and talking to people. He gets back in his car to rush back to the restaurant .

    Ok, that sounds good, except, that restaurant is in a strip mall. Irvine was talking to people and in the background you can see a Best Buy along with a Dollar Tree. All three of the places is in the SAME strip mall. The restaurant is just a little down from Best Buy.

    It's a show I know, but I just LOL'ed when I saw him driving and showing the road out the window, when he just went down the parking lot a bit.
     
  16. Big Deficit

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    Faked driving is a trivial thing. Irvine is a fraud, at least a partial one. From the lying about his past to the defrauding of restaurant investors, he may be one of the worst selections as a restaurant advisor ever. Even with his TV chef cred, his first restaurant closed, his attempted St.Pete locations were a disaster and he's since opened a sandwich shop in a Tanger outlet mall (never been, but I avoid outlet malls at all cost). I've looked at his cook book and don't find the recipes compelling or particularly innovative. More like someone searched Allrecipes.com and changed things a little (which is likely true of most "celebrity chefs"). He does seem very good at failing upward.
     
  17. pmyers

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    I'll just say that every chef I've heard of, has had a restaurant/s close.
     
  18. Big Deficit

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    True, but he has only had 2 that opened and the one still running is basically a sandwich shop in a mall. He also had 2 that never opened under very dubious circumstances. His lack of overall experience, very high failure rate and ethics issues doesn't exactly paint him as someone to take business advice from. Stack that against Gordon Ramsey's experience, like comparing a new Bentley to a kids tricycle. Yet Irvines show soldiers on while Ramsey's goes away.
     
  19. Worf

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    Well, I think Ramsay's got more of a full plate on his hands, between his restaurants and his other shows. And let's not forget Ramsay is more on Fox (who really are the ones behind Hell's Kitchen) when he really wants to do more MasterChef and the like. Plus I'm sure filming UK and US episodes takes a toll.

    Plus, Ramsay said he's stopping KN on his own - more of a hiatus than a cancellation. And Ramsay isn't exactly hurting for work - he's got Hotel Hell to film too.

    Looking over his bio, he's got a full plate between several dozen restaurants, a handful of TV shows across continents.

    Irvine, well, he's basically just got RI. So yeah, someone's hurting for a paycheque, while the other has more work than one person can handle.
     
  20. pmyers

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    Are you his accountant?
     

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