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Discussion in 'TiVo Help Center' started by oinkaroonie, Aug 11, 2012.

  1. oinkaroonie

    oinkaroonie New Member

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    The drive is arriving Thursday. Should I use an image recommended by steve614, or one of unitron's? If the latter, where do I get it?
     
  2. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    There's a thread around here somewhere entitled "Need an image, don't PM me".

    (Long, long ago there was a previous one that said "PM me". It should be considered inactive and out of date)

    If you find that thread and search it for me and for TCD652160, you should come up with a post with a couple of dropbox links.

    I'm making you search for it so that you'll have a sense of accomplishment.:rolleyes:

    Speaking of dropbox, if you ask me to send you an invite to open a free account with them, we both get extra free space.
     
  3. oinkaroonie

    oinkaroonie New Member

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    That'd probably be this post -- thanks!

    I already have a sense of accomplishment from what I've learned the past few days!:)

    I already have a dropbox account -- sorry...

    Now I'm all set for my new disk to arrive tomorrow. Again, many thanks!
     
  4. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    In the email notifying me of this post, the link you provide is

    http://www.cessna-pilots.net/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=218982&page=0#Post218982

    instead of

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8831301#post8831301

    which actually shows up here on the site.

    Do you know anything about the cessna pilots thing, or is somebody screwing with my email?
     
  5. oinkaroonie

    oinkaroonie New Member

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    I initially copy/pasted the wrong link from my clipboard; I immediately edited it. So the post is now correct... (yes, I am a Cessna pilot :) )

    Just for grins, I tried doing a backup of my bad drive, and it was successful. So when I get the new drive tomorrow I'll first try a disk copy from bad to good. Secondly I'll try restoring my image. If all else fails, I'll use your image file.

    Getting excited as I near the finish line...
     
  6. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    When you say bad to good, you mean bad to previously unused with nothing on it to worry about losing, right?
     
  7. oinkaroonie

    oinkaroonie New Member

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    Yes. Bad meaning the original WD1600 with all the SMART errors that seems to have morphed into a read-only drive. Good meaning the 1TB unformatted Hitachi Deskstar scheduled to arrive from Newegg tomorrow.

    Thanks for looking over my shoulder. The more eyes, the better. :)
     
  8. oinkaroonie

    oinkaroonie New Member

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    I received the Hitachi drive yesterday, so began my Tivo ressurection last night.

    The Hitachi GST Deskstar 7K1000.C 0F10383 doesn't have AAM. So the drive's noise is what it is. Turns out it's not objectionable to me, but your mileage may vary.

    Plan A: First, I tried copying the original drive to the new drive with MfsCopy. It stalled out at the beginning of the Partition 9 copy and never finished. I let it sit for a couple of hours, then canceled the copy.

    Plan B: I tried restoring the truncated backup of the original drive to the new one. It complained about Error writing inode 0. I tried this a few times with the same result. So the backup from the original drive was unusable.

    Plan C: I restored from unitron's truncated backup, and was successful. Time to go through the entire setup procedure, but my Tivo was alive! (Thanks, unitron!)

    The Tivo seems back to normal, except that it had to reboot once after the setup because it reported that it found a hardware problem. No reboots since. Also, it can't find the Tivo service over the network; I had to use the phone line. Network used to work. I'll troubleshoot that piece tonight.

    So far, a thumbs up for the Hitachi drive.
     
  9. oinkaroonie

    oinkaroonie New Member

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    Unitron, your image somehow put some recording info on my box. Every time I went to the Now Playing list, I'd get the error 51 indicating I had data from another box on mine. A C&DE cleaned that problem up.

    The networking issue is really weird. I actually have a connection with Tivo, but my box is cutting the conversation short. It's initiating an SSL (encrypted) connection with the Tivo server on port 443 (the standard HTTPS port).

    My box negotiates with the server, the server asks for my box's security certificate, and it verifies my certificate. That all looks normal.

    Then my Tivo box sends some data (I can't see what it is, because it's encrypted) and the server sends some data back. After that first exchange, my box notifies the server that it's closing the connection. Then my Tivo notifies me that there was a problem with the Internet connection.

    The phone connection works, but there's something squirrelly about the internet one. Any ideas?
     
  10. ggieseke

    ggieseke Active Member

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    Running C&DE is always necessary when you use an image from another TiVo.

    On the network issue, you may have to force it to renew its security certificate. Go online and turn off transfers & downloads. Wait a few hours for their servers to sync up and force a daily call. Once the TiVoToGo status in the System Information screen reads "i,i,i" you can reverse the whole process until it shows "a,a,a".
     
  11. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    Any info would not have been the actual recordings themselves, although there are instances where one might see, on the same machine, the listing of the recordings.

    Think of it like a book where all of the pages have been ripped out except the table of contents at the beginning.

    TiVos are designed so that you can't take the hard drive out of one and stick it in a second one and still be able to watch the recordings the first one made.

    The TiVo Service Number is used somehow to mark or encrypt or encode the recordings to defeat that.

    That's what throws up an error 51, whenever a TiVo encounters a trace of some other TiVos TSN.

    All that has to be scrubbed out. Usually the full guided setup you go through should take care of that.
     
  12. oinkaroonie

    oinkaroonie New Member

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    The networking issue turned out to be unrelated to certificates. My firewall was keeping ICMP "ping" packets from getting responses. Once I changed that, the Tivo connected to the Tivo server.

    Kinda funny -- even though the Tivo box has an active connection with the server through HTTPS, it severs the connection when it doesn't get a ping response after a certain number of attempts.

    My Tivo has been successfully resurrected. Thanks again for all the help here!
     

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