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Discussion in 'TiVo Stream' started by dave13077, Aug 20, 2012.

  1. Fofer

    Fofer XenForo Rocks! TCF Club

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    With the news of the xCon update for jailbreakers, I just left my local Best Buy, with a TiVo Stream in hand. I'm excited to give this thing a whirl!
     
  2. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Hey if you figure out some way to hack it to extract the recordings to a PC let me know. I might just jailbreak mine just for that.

    Dan
     
  3. Fofer

    Fofer XenForo Rocks! TCF Club

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    After poking around the iOS directory, I have found where the video downloads are stored on the iPad.

    The TiVo app itself is called "Quicksilver.app" in the internal directory. (I see some references to "Quicksilver-TiVo.") And in its enclosing directory is a "Documents" folder, and in there is a "SavedVideos" folder. I just don't know what to do with what's inside; it's a bunch of .seg files:

    [​IMG]

    I am saving this folder to my Mac now to see what to make of it.
     
  4. Fofer

    Fofer XenForo Rocks! TCF Club

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    In other news, I am using a great jailbreak tweak called UnrestrictPremium 2, that allows for AirPlay Mirroring to work on apps that otherwise restrict it.

    Indeed, it is now working with the TiVo app. :up: (Also works with many others that have the same crippling, like HBO GO, DirecTV, TimeWarnerCable Live TV, etc. Very happy to have this, it opens up doors!)

    This tweak lessens my desire for a TiVo Mini, quite frankly, since I now have a TiVo Stream and an iPad, playing back on a bigscreen TV (via AirPlay Mirroring and AppleTV.) No HDMI cable or other tweaks required.

    I suspect the remote UI would be a little better with an actual TiVo Mini, and the video would certainly fill the entire screen (whereas AirPlay Mirroring like this, for me, leaves a big black border.) But still, this is free (have we heard yet if TiVo Mini has a monthly fee?) and feels great to be able to bypass the annoying anti-AirPlay-Mirroring measures that these apps have been instituting.
     
  5. DavidTigerFan

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    Fof, I haven't followed the JB scene much recently. Can ios6 be JB on an ipad3?
     
  6. Fofer

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    iOS 6, that was just released yesterday? No.
     
  7. Dan203

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    Interesting. Based on what little I could find poking around the systeminfo screens the Stream uses HLS for streaming. HLS breaks video into small segments so you can randomly access any portion of a video while it's streaming. It would appear TiVo retains the HLS segments in the app folder for local playback. HLS segments are really just TS streams so, provided they aren't encrypted, you should be able to play them in VLC. If they aren't encrypted you should also be able to join them all back into a single file using VideoReDo.

    Is there a way to roll back the OS on an iPad? I just got a brand new iPad3 today. However I already upgraded my iPad2 to iOS6 yesterday (didn't expect the 3 until next week) so I have to upgrade the 3 to iOS6 to use my backup. However when I'm done and sure everything is working I'd like to roll the iPad2 back to factory defaults and then JB it. Is that possible?

    Dan
     
  8. bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    It looks like it is possible if you have the blobs saved. Here is a blog entry from the dev team: http://blog.iphone-dev.org/post/31869383801/blob-o-riffic
     
  10. Fofer

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    I can't seem to play them in VLC. Not sure if that means they're encrypted, or what, but I can't seem to play them on my Mac.
     
  11. Dan203

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    Want to send me one so I can look at it? They look relatively small

    Dan
     
  12. Fofer

    Fofer XenForo Rocks! TCF Club

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    Sure, PM me your email address.
     
  13. innocentfreak

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    It looks like there are various .seg joiners and converters out there. I wonder if it is a combination of unjoined files and VLC not having access to the MAK. I wonder if the app has some type of updated tivodecode built in.
     
  14. Fofer

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    I should clarify. It is jailbreakable, but only on some models (ie: iPhone 5, iPhone 4S, iPad 2, iPad 3, and iPod touch 5th-gen are not supported), and it's a tethered jailbreak:

    http://www.itechpost.com/articles/4...edsn0w-install-cydia-iphone-ipod-touch-a4.htm
     
  15. Dan203

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    I looked at them in a hex editor. They don't match any format I've ever seen, so my only guess is that they are encrypted.

    From what I understand HLS uses SSL encryption, so that could explain the seemingly random data. I was hoping that maybe TiVo stored the local copies unencrypted or converted to the standard TiVoToGo format, but that doesn't appear to be the case. TTG files are encrypted but only the video and audio streams are encrypted, the container is still a standard TS or PS. These files don't seem to have any discernible pattern to the data which means the entire stream is likely encrypted.

    That doesn't bode well for the possibility of side loading capabilities coming to TiVo Desktop. I think our only hope of seeing this on a PC is via a Win8 app that is completely self contained like the iOS app.

    Dan
     
  16. moyekj

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    I tried pretty hard a while back to reverse engineer MRS but had very limited success because of SSL encryption. Would be great if someone much more familiar with SSL MITM attacks or the like to continue that work:
    MRS Discovery Thread

    I keep hoping the so-called yet to be released to public new SDK may have hooks in place for streaming to and from series 4 units but I'm not holding my breath on that (or even that it will be publicly released to anyone but TiVo partners).
     
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    It looks like with today's 2.0.2 release of the TiVo app, xCon is no longer necessary to get the app to run on jailbroken devices. I'm guessing you'd still need it to use the streaming functionality, however.
     
  18. Fofer

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    Wow, that's even MORE great news. I might have to test this out to see what's what. :)
     
  19. BigJimOutlaw

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    I can confirm that... looks like non-Stream owning jailbreakers can use the app normally again. Update your app! :)
     
  20. Tivogre

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    Oh no... I just tried to start a stream on my iPad, and got the dreaded Serious Problem screen from my Elite!!!

    Hopefully a one time thing or a coincidence...
     

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