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Discussion in 'TiVo Stream' started by dave13077, Aug 20, 2012.

  1. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    Why is that strange? That is the whole purpose of the Stream device. Mobile devices can't play MPEG2 in hardware. TiVo Premiere doesn't have a dedicated hardware chip to transcode the recorded MPEG2 into H264. That is why the Stream was made.
     
  2. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    It is actually quite an impressive piece of hardware that can transcode three high-bitrate 1080i streams at the same time, in realtime.
     
  3. ort

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    It seems strange to me since the video is actually being streamed twice. My wireless router has to send all of the data from my TiVo... to the Stream and then to my iPhone.

    I mean, it's not really that weird, it's just that after hearing all these reports of how it has to be hardwired in, MoCa networks, etc... it got a little confusing... and seeing that the answer is so simple, and yet requires double streaming of all video, seems a little odd to me.
     
  4. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    That's why wireless is not officially supported. Because it'll also be using the wireless network to stream the recoded video to the iPad it will really push the limits of the wireless network. This is why I suggested that it'll likely only work if you do one stream at a time. If you tried to do the full 3 streams it's capable of your wireless network probably couldn't handle it.

    But in any case it's all just network traffic, so if you've got the bandwidth then you can wire it up however you want.

    Dan
     
  5. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    I agree. Not too many years ago transcoding just one HD stream in realtime required a chip costing thousands of dollars. (I actually research some cards that did this for a client like 5-6 years ago and they were like $3,500 each)

    Dan
     
  6. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    No, but pretty much all of them protect at least the Premium channels now. Bright House and TWC abuse the flag, but all of them use it. This is what finally forced TiVo into implementing streaming. Use of the CCI bit was breaking MRV.

    Dan
     
  7. Fofer

    Fofer XenForo Rocks! TCF Club

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    Why not just point AirVideo at the same directory?

    http://www.inmethod.com/air-video
     
  8. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    I think he was looking for the side loading capability

    Dan
     
  9. innocentfreak

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    Gotcha. I always push since I queue up couple episodes at once via the web interface via my iPad while I am watching something.
     
  10. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    What would really be cool is if TiVo updated TiVo Desktop to be an MRS source. The you could stream anything from your PC library directly to your TiVo/iPad or side load it on the iPad via the Stream. It would likely have to go through two recodes for the iPad though since the PC would have to convert it to MPEG-2 to make it TiVo compatible and then the Stream would have to convert it to H.264. However I doubt anyone would really see a significant loss of quality.

    Dan
     
  11. bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    I can't tell you how much time and energy i have spent trying to get Airvideo to work properly... I have my media library on a Media Smart server and it really bogs down trying to transcode and the quality is terrible. Don't even consider realtime transcoding!!!. I have also tried it from the family desktop, but more often then not it ends up getting interrupted.

    I actually considered building a dedicated machine just to transcode and stream videos - you have no idea how many hours and how many tools I have used and tried!

    And one more video that I spend an hour transcoding just to have the audio out of sync I will pull out what is left of my hair!

    Easy? I don't think so...

    A dedicated set and forget solution? Yeah baby!!!
     
  12. bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    Dan you are correct! Pulling via the TiVo the video come over open and clear, pushing with pytivo the video came over copy protected...

    I never noticed that before.
     
  13. cherry ghost

    cherry ghost Active Member

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    Pretty much what I said yesterday

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=9257184#post9257184

    No folders when you pull, but that doesn't really matter in this case
     
  14. generaltso

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    Has anyone's Stream shipped yet? Maybe they're just planning to ship them all out on Tuesday with overnight shipping? My order says ground shipping, but there's no way it will get to me by the 5th via Ground if it hasn't shipped yet.
     
  15. aaronwt

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    The TiVo can handle H.264 decoding. Otherwise those cable channels that use H.264 would not work on a TiVo.
     
  16. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    It can handle/decode it, and has the hardware decoder built-in, but only in certain containers, at certain profiles, at certain bitrates and with certain audio. I have actually had a bad time getting anything to play natively on the Premiere, PyTiVo ends up transcoding pretty much everything.
     
  17. tivoknucklehead

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    I could easily live without transferring HBO and the like but would like my regular network shows to be transferred and now few can be on Bright House and its silly
     
  18. gtrogue

    gtrogue Mentally Hilarious

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    The TiVo sales guy told me the shipping would be upgraded to overnight for free. I assumed they would send all the initial shipments on Tuesday with overnight shipping.
     
  19. gtrogue

    gtrogue Mentally Hilarious

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    Me too. I just pirate HBO. :p
     
  20. generaltso

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    Did your confirmation email list overnight shipping? Mine says ground.
     

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