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Discussion in 'TiVo Stream' started by dave13077, Aug 20, 2012.

  1. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Yes side loading via the Stream will have the exact same limitations as TiVoToGo. You'll be able to Stream anything though, even if it's protected.

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  2. gtrogue

    gtrogue Mentally Hilarious

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    It would be nice if the would revamp TiVo Desktop or supply a Mac and PC app that used the Stream for streaming and transcoding. Probably not going to happen though since that could solve the problem of getting content to other TV's without having to purchase another box from TiVo.
     
  3. jcthorne

    jcthorne Active Member

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    DVD Fab
     
  4. ort

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    So it doesn't need to be hooked into the TiVo it's streaming from? The show has to get streamed down to the Stream Box, converted and then streamed out to my iPad? That seems... strange to me.

    I think I'll wait and see how this plays out once a lot of people try to do these things.

    I don't want to spend the $130 only to have it not work exactly as expected.

    Thanks for the info!
     
  5. bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    Look at it this way... The TiVo and the Stream ARE connected - simply through your Local Area Network...

    The TiVo app on your IOS device is also connected (wirelessly) into your LAN.

    Currently Premier to Premier streaming works by sending a TiVo stream from TiVo 1 through your network to TiVo 2. SimpleĀ…

    The TiVo Stream Box works the same way. As far as TiVo 1 is concerned the Stream Box is just another Premier on your network. TiVo 1 sends a stream through your network to the Stream box, this device has dedicated hardware that transcodes the stream into the proper format and then sends it on its way to the TiVo app on a mobile device.

    Dave Zatz has done a great review of the box if you have any other questions.

    http://www.zatznotfunny.com/2012-08/tivo-stream-review/
     
  6. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    The way it works is actually better then requiring it to be connected directly to the TiVo because one Stream can actually be used with multiple TiVos. Provided you had enough iPads and Premiere units you could actually stream 3 different shows from 3 different TiVos to 3 different iPads all at the same time. If the device were dedicated to a single TiVo then you'd have to buy one Stream for each TiVo on your network.

    Dan
     
  7. sbiller

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    +1 :up:
     
  8. tivoknucklehead

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    I really , really want to be able to download copyrighted shows to my ipad to take on long flights for my personal use, then delete them. I don't understand why Bright House and TWC block this, they could DRM it somehow I would think to prevent illegal retransmission.

    all this old way of thinking does is force people to use torrents that really don't want to do that kind of stuff
     
  9. smbaker

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    Because hitting things with a very big hammer requires little effort or skill, and it really doesn't matter if you occasionally smash someone else's thumb in the process.
     
  10. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    It's not entirely Bright House or TWCs fault. The CableCARD rules were designed by a consortium of companies in the cable industry, all of whom agreed to include the CCI bit and force developers of CableCARD equipment to adhere to it. Bright House and TWC use it excessively, but even the cable companies that don't use it across the board still use it whenever the channel provider requests it. For example in most areas the premium channels and PPV are protected even when the rest of the channels are not. Even FIOS, who had avoided using the CCI bit completely, had to start using it a few weeks ago for HBO.

    Now it's possible TiVo might be able to get around the CCI bit by moving, rather then copying, shows between devices. However they'd probably have to use better protection for their TTG format then what they're using now or or the cable companies would take issue.

    Dan
     
  11. tivoknucklehead

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    90% of my recorded Tivo shows cannot be transferred to my PC using Tivo to Go because I have Bright House. I can't believe other cable companies (besides TWC) are anywhere close to that %
     
  12. sbiller

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    Well, sweet then...

    Let me just clarify.

    I can hook up a TiVo Stream to my modem and wireless router in my basement, and have it stream shows from my upstairs TiVo Premiere in another room?

    That's the setup?
     
  14. bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    That is correct...
     
  15. bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    Consider that you can take movies that you have archived from DVD's and push them TiVo - at that point it is easy to load them onto your IOS device.

    Not as fully functional as you might want, but still a lot of value.
     
  16. jmpage2

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    There's no motive for premium providers to disable the copy flag. They don't care if you have a TiVo and are a legitimate subscriber of their services. They don't want you to have a side-loaded copy of their content PERIOD. If you want to watch their so called premium content on your mobile device they want to lock you in to watching it with their own application, which of course they fully control.

    As to providers who simply flip the bit on all programming, I would say they either believe they are covering their own asses with this shameful move, or, they are simply lazy.
     
  17. innocentfreak

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    I don't know if that will work. I thought any content sent to the TiVos is automatically flagged. I know in the past some PyTiVo pushes were blocked but not sure if pulls are affected the same way.
     
  18. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    I believe that pushes are always flagged but pulls are not. Since DVDs are already MPEG-2 you can pull them to a TiVo without recoding, so there is no advantage to pushing.

    Although if you want to recode a movies for your iPad there are much easier ways to do it.

    Dan
     
  19. bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    I do not think so... I have never had a problem moving videos around and I definately do not see the CCI Bit icon. What format do you archive your videos in? All my rips are a standard single file MPEG2

    I will double check tonight and report back.

    NOTE: I usually pull my vidoes using the TiVo to browse my video library on my Media Server. However, from time to time I will also push the video using pyTiVo mobile UI. I will test both methods tonight.
     
  20. bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    Easier? I don't know. I have found it to be such a pain in the backside that I don't do it anymore. I spent hours playing with different tools and trying to get the resolution just right - all I ever end up with is jumpy video and out of sync audio - blech...

    I am sure the right mix will get it right, but I am not sure I would call it easier...


    Step 1: Browse my video library from my TiVo and find a movie or two I want to take on my upcoming trip - initiate a transfer
    Step 2: Browse my NPL on the iPAD for the movies I just transferred - initiate the transfer - done!

    Now if the iPad app could see my PyTiVo video library - NIRVANA!!!!
     

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