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Discussion in 'TiVo Stream' started by dave13077, Aug 20, 2012.

  1. cherry ghost

    cherry ghost Active Member

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    Might have to do with how you transfer to your TiVo. When I push non .tivo shows from my PC to my TiVo they're copy protected, but when I pull them they're not.
     
  2. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Just ordered one. They made me read the email to verify I actually go it. I just read them what Dave posted on his site and they said that was OK. :)

    Dan
     
  3. Rebate_King

    Rebate_King New Member

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    why are some folks sweating this? It will be available for everyone else just a day later. And if you can wait a few weeks, you may find it for less at amazon.

    Using the TiVo slide remote as an example. I think that first went on the market for $90. Its been selling at amazon for a year now for $39.

    I think I'll wait till the holidays and this thing will probably sell for well under $100 by then.
     
  4. Fofer

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    Some people have been waiting a long time for it, are really excited about it, want to be amongst the first to be able to receive and use it... more than they care about saving $40.
     
  5. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    I considered that but I've been waiting for this for a while now, and my excitement overtook logic. I have a very specific use case for it and I just want to start using it ASAP.

    Dan
     
  6. jmpage2

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    Some of us will get well more than $40 of utility out of the unit over the next 90 days while you wait for a price drop.

    Will it be available within a week or two for $10-$20 less than the price to pre-order? Sure it will... but, the nice thing about getting it early is the entertainment factor. Considering that I pay over thirty bucks to be entertained by a 90 minute movie I think I am okay with paying MSRP on a really cool new bit of tech that will entertain me for far longer.
     
  7. stoli412

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    That's not typically how AirPlay works. The iPad sets up the connection with the Apple TV and the source directly and then just operates as a control device. (Unless you're doing AirPlay Mirroring, which is a continuous connection.)
     
  8. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    Get an Access Point and leave your router in place.
     
  9. mattack

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    I guess so, but what will read a DVD-RAM "filesystem" and get a raw mpeg2 file off of it, or convert it to standard DVD-R?
     
  10. mattack

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    Since presumably they don't have a software-based MPEG-2 player on iOS (can you say 'suck all my battery' and not even be fast enough?), this device is reencoding the videos to be iOS specific. (I'm guessing MPEG 4?) Specific resolutions and formats that have direct iOS support.
     
  11. mattack

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    Wait, how do you start up sideloads then? I thought it would be connected to a TV and then you effectively use a Tivo UI to convert recordings to the connected iPad..
     
  12. Fofer

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    No. You control it all from the iPad.
     
  13. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    No. It is not IOS specific. MPEG4 is MPEG4 (H.264 + AAC in an MPEG4 container). Although it will be encoding to typically supported resolutions and bitrates for most mobile devices (including, of course, the ipad and iphone). There are software MPEG-2 players on Android (and apps that will play just about anything). But like you said, because it is not hardware assisted/accelerated, they have to use the CPU a LOT and it will wipe the battery pretty quickly.
     
  14. ort

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    So I'm getting confused about the setup of this thing.

    Here's my setup.

    My main TiVo (a premiere) is upstairs connected via a TiVo wireless dongle. This is the TiVo I want to be able to stream from.

    My wireless router and modem are downstairs hooked up to another TiVo (TiVo HD).

    Am I screwed here?

    I don't really want to move my router upstairs or switch the two TiVos.

    I also don't really feel like dealing with the hassle of setting up a MoCa network or whatever it's called. I have enough damn boxes hooked up to these things. At some point enough is enough. As cool as it would be to stream to my phone or iPad, it's just not worth a lot of hassle.

    And a second question, if I got a second wifi router and used it as a network extender, could I hardwire the Stream into the second wifi router?
     
  15. jmpage2

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    TiVo is insisting that your premiere be on either wired Ethernet or MOCA. They say that wireless on the TiVo won't be supported.

    You can plug the Stream box in anywhere in the house that you want (any Ethernet connection on the same network) and theoretically it would work, but TiVo is pretty insistent that your premiere be on a wired connection.
     
  16. Dan203

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    OK wireless is not officially supported, but you can hook it up easily and see for yourself if it works. All you have to do is connect the Stream box downstairs directly to the wireless router via Ethernet. My guess is that it'll probably work fine provided you only stream one show at a time. (I think it supports streaming up to 4 shows at once on a wired network)

    Dan
     
  17. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    The Stream is just a middle man. It has no interface of it's own, no remote and no video outputs. It's controlled exclusively by the iPad via the network. The only reason it's necessary at all is because the iPad can't play the native MPEG-2 format TiVos record in. So the Stream sits between the TiVo and the iPad on the network and acts as a translator, converting the MPEG-2 stream from the TiVo into an H.264 stream the iPad can actually play.

    My understanding is that a future hardware revision (Series 5?) will have this ability baked in and the iPad will be able to stream directly from the TiVo without the middle man. But until then the Stream is a way to add that ability to current generation Premieres.

    Dan
     
  18. tivoknucklehead

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    Bright House has told me I will not be able to download copyright protected shows to my ipad, just like current situation with Tivo to go to my PC. Tivo sales rep said most should be good to download, but I am guessing the Tivo rep is wrong. Just pre-ordered, should I cancel, since that is the only reason I am getting one?
     
  19. sbiller

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    On Bright House and Time Warner Cable everything but the local channels is locked down. If downloading/sideloading is the only reason you are buying the Stream than it will be disappointing. I do believe there is a chance the BHN and TWC may change their position at some point in the future but that is just speculation. Its also possible that the other cable operators may reverse their decision and decide to further lock-down their content.
     
  20. tivoknucklehead

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    ugh, just cancelled my order based on your response, thanks, that's what I was afraid of

    such a waste
     

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