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Jeopardy: Just Noticed This

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by waynomo, Jun 3, 2013.

  1. busyba

    busyba The Funcooker

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    They gave you the clue. You had no idea. :p
     
  2. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give em Hell, Devils

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    No, they gave him the answer. He didn't have the question.

    ;)
     
  3. mattack

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    I mean, I figured out that logic too.. but sometimes a player gets hosed when they get the DJ answer as the LAST or NEARLY last answer in the DJ round. If they are slightly above 2x the next player, it can make it NOT a runaway...
     
  4. Feb 4, 2014 #204 of 940
    Regina

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    So I was watching the Tournament of Champions "Decades" 1980's game last night and Chuck Forrest was on. My mother and I were discussing the game after it was over..she thought that Chuck was overly aggressive and super-pi$$ed off whenever anyone else got an answer correct, and/or whenever someone else chose the "Daily Double" clue...I don't know, he just seemed super intense, and maybe even a little nervous after all these years...
    What did others think?
     
  5. Feb 4, 2014 #205 of 940
    Unbeliever

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    Speaking of Forrest, apparently the current champ, Arthur Chu, (well, I don't watch, so I don't know if he still is) is really aggressive on the "Forrest Bounce" (looking for the daily doubles) and the "Perfect Final" bet......

    And is being roundly blasted by Jeopardy! fans, claiming that he's not following the spirit of the game. According to them, a contestant is supposed to row through the categories logically, from least hard to most hard, and be grateful when a DD is found, and bet the Final based on his confidence in the subject, and not maximize his chance of winning.

    --Carlos V.
     
  6. Feb 4, 2014 #206 of 940
    Turtleboy

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    http://www.salon.com/2014/02/04/in_praise_of_arthur_chu_the_game_theory_nerd_who_broke_jeopardy/
     
  7. Feb 4, 2014 #207 of 940
    mattack

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    Yeah, I remember seeing (in the middle of the night) a tease on CNN (which I usually tune to to have in the buffer) about Jeopardy.. Then it's now a day or two later, and I'm seeing all of these articles....

    and this really didn't sound new at all. There have been people who jump around for a long time.

    I haven't caught up yet, I think I'm about a week and a half back (luckily, I "randomly" recorded a "To Be Announced" show on the night of the state of the union and it HAPPENED to actually be Jeopardy!)
     
  8. Feb 4, 2014 #208 of 940
    busyba

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    Holy crap, seriously?!

    Way too many people in this world don't kill themselves.
     
  9. Feb 4, 2014 #209 of 940
    busyba

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    Didn't Ken Jennings employ the same strategy?
     
  10. Feb 4, 2014 #210 of 940
    waynomo

    waynomo My One Time TCF Club

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    Certainly others have done similar, but not to the extent that Chu has.
     
  11. Feb 4, 2014 #211 of 940
    busyba

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    I'm about 15 eps behind, but I've got something to look forward to now. :)
     
  12. Feb 5, 2014 #212 of 940
    Worf

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    Plus I think Ken Jennings is far more personable.

    The big deal is basically gaming it to win rather than trying to have fun, and at least giving the people at home a chance to play. (It's actually quite important - half the fun of watching Jeopardy is trying to answer it yourself)

    Remember, the goal of the show is to sell ads, and to do that, it helps if the people watching (i.e., the product) are having fun and being entertained, so ads can be sold (the ad company is the customer). "Perfect" play like this to maximize winnings works, but is far less entertaining.

    Sort of like being in a class with a substitute teacher who asks a question and the one kid in the room always shoots his hand up and gets called, or playing pool where your buddy just plays perfect shots and never lets you get a chance. It's fun for all about 10 minutes then it's annoying and you wonder what else is on.

    Plus, the writers often put a lot of fun in the clues and you lose out on that when the order isn't maintained.
     
  13. Feb 5, 2014 #213 of 940
    busyba

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    a) He's not your dancing monkey. He didn't go on the show to entertain you; he went on there to win.

    2) I haven't watched it yet, so I'm curious as to what exactly he's doing that prevents the people at home from trying to answer it themselves.
     
  14. Feb 5, 2014 #214 of 940
    Hoffer

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    I never watch Jeopardy, but just happened to watch about 10 minutes of the show 2 days ago. I remember thinking how weird it was this Chu guy was jumping all over the board. Yesterday I saw an article about the guy, maybe on CNN, about how he is jumping around.
     
  15. Feb 5, 2014 #215 of 940
    busyba

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  16. Feb 5, 2014 #216 of 940
    waynomo

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    I have no problem with him jumping around.

    The one disadvantage to that is that sometimes you need the easier clues to understand what they're trying to get at.

    I don't understand why people are in such a tizzy over this. Others have done it before.

    I do remember something posting in this thread that it messes with them because of their OCD. (Not going in order.)
     
  17. Feb 5, 2014 #217 of 940
    MauriAnne

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    There was even a piece on ABC Nightly News about Chu last night. I don't see what the big deal is personally, and I never understood why more people don't bet Final Jeopardy for a tie score.
     
  18. Feb 5, 2014 #218 of 940
    Jonathan_S

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    My understanding is that wynomo basically has it. It can be harder to play along at home if they jump straight to the hardest two questions in a category before you see any of the easy ones.

    You don't get to decypher the patern that the question / answers form. (Must start with a "I", etc)

    So his play style apparently doesn't prevent people from playing along at home; but it can make it harder for them to do so succesfully.
     
  19. Feb 5, 2014 #219 of 940
    scooterboy

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    Exactly this. I've seen it many times, and I'm not even a regular viewer.
     
  20. Feb 5, 2014 #220 of 940
    MarkofT

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    Read an article today where Chu said part of the idea with bouncing around the board is to find the Daily Doubles, but the other part is by jumping between the categories, he is surprising the other players and that is more tiring for them. It doesn't affect him because he knows what category he is going to pick and can prepare himself.
     

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