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I've had a Tivo mini for two hours, and here are my thoughts...

Discussion in 'TiVo Mini' started by redbeard25, Mar 14, 2013.

  1. redbeard25

    redbeard25 Member

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    Just two hours ago, Igot my Tivo mini. I can already tell the simplicity and feature set will blow anything else away. Here are the instant wins for me:

    1. Same awesome Tivo interface that I'm used to. Well, basically... we still use SDUI on our Premiere because we're old school. Still, everything's in the right place.

    2. No need for another Comcast cable box or card. no extra "outlet" fee and no box rental. The two of those fees together mean I'll recoup my lifetime purchase in 10 months.

    3. Everything streams... even the "do not transfer" content, which I can't figure out for the life of me why some of it is flagged that way. It doesn't matter to the mini.

    4. Zero setup. I literally plugged the thing in, turned it on, told it to set itself up, and it did. No configuration - it found my premiere and there it worked.

    5. No noise, low power. I had a Series 2 with lifetime limping along with a Comcast DTA box on that TV, and it was amazing the difference in sound. I would imagine that my electricity usage will dip with a solid state device on that plug instead of a spinning drive device (that's a half decade old.)

    6. Same bat channels, same bat content. I don't have to wonder what's stored on what box. It's all in one place, and the mini just shares it.

    It's not for everyone. I'm a Tivo snob since 1999, so I'm weird like that.

    The things that I hope Tivo will do soon:

    1. Dynamic Tuner Allocation. It is a little onerous to have to give up a tuner ALL THE TIME for the extender, even when I'm not using the box. I guess they want to avoid turning on the extender and getting a message that says "I'm sorry, all four tuners are in use. What recording do you want to cancel?"

    2. Netflix and Amazon. To be able to have those apps would be golden.
     
  2. magnus

    magnus Tivo User

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    Can you watch something that was downloaded from Amazon on the Mini?
     
  3. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Active Member

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    I believe the answer was no.
     
  4. MPSAN

    MPSAN Active Member

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    Can you watch something while it is being recorded?
     
  5. jjd_87

    jjd_87 Member

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    Yes
     
  6. innocentfreak

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    I think this is an across the board block. I don't think you can use the Stream on that content either.
     
  7. sbiller

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    Can you watch a web video download (e.g., HD Nation; video podcast(s)) on the Mini?
     
  8. overFEDEXed

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    I watched The Apple Byte, on the Mini, that was already recorded on the Elite.
    Then I used the Launchpad, from the Mini, to watch CNET. It all looked pretty good.
     
  9. sbiller

    sbiller Active Member

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    Excellent. An advantage over the Stream. You can't watch downloaded web video's on the stream. They are blocked. You also can't MRS web videos.
     
  10. overFEDEXed

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    I don't think that anything is blocked. Well, almost. Even my DVD's, that I ripped and pushed, to the Tivo's. I can watch any of them, where before they were blocked.

    I really, really need Netflix though. With two young children, we wear it out in my household. Also my young wife and her "One Tree Hill"
     
  11. sbiller

    sbiller Active Member

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    I'm 99.9% sure Amazon Instant Video downloads would be blocked.
     
  12. rainwater

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    Amazon blocks it's content from streaming (MRS). And since the Mini uses the same MRS protocol, it is no different than trying to stream a Amazon download from another premiere (it is blocked).
     
  13. overFEDEXed

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    Yes, 100% sure. I just tried it. Got the "Due to Copyright" Message.
     
  14. redbeard25

    redbeard25 Member

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    Interesting - I don't have any to test, but like the above poster, I got Cnet's "do not transfer" stuff to stream.
     
  15. rainwater

    rainwater Active Member

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    Do not transfer doesn't prohibit streaming. Amazon's videos do not allow transfer or streaming.
     
  16. Gadfly

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    I ordered a mini from Tivo last night. Couldn't wait till it gets here and I needed a second one anyway. So I bought one from Best Buy tonight.

    Installation was easy and painless. I had it up and running in less than half an hour, most of it waiting for downloading programming information (I think).

    Everything works as expected. This Mini is sitting next to a Tivo HD and streams from a Premier upstairs. So I needed to make sure the Tivo remote and Mini remote do not interfere. A little bit searching in old HD manual and following the instructions took care of setting the remotes to different numbers.

    It may be my imagination but it seems to me the quality of the picture is not as good as watching it locally. I was hoping that I wouldn't lose any fidelity due to some compression. For the record I am using wired 1 Gbps Ethernet. In particular fast action scenes showed noticeable pixilation and I saw some softness in some other scenes that was similar to watching Netflix HD off the internet. It might have been the show I was watching but I am going to run some side by side tests. I will be really disappointed if the quality of the picture is not the same as watching the show locally.
     
  17. NotNowChief

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    No, I noticed it as well, the quality is definitely a notch below watching it on the Premiere. Not that bad though.

    Good enough reason to make sure the host DVR is always at the primary TV-watching location.
     
  18. sbiller

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    Interesting. I would have expected zero degradation in quality since the Mini should be streaming an exact copy of the Mpeg 2. Perhaps the Elite's THX video design makes a difference?
     
  19. NotNowChief

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    I didn't think THX was as much as a design as it was a set of standards.

    I absolutely insist its a notch below. I understand what you're saying, but there was definitely a tad more blur to the picture, and the color was not as vivid as the original.

    I will test the Mini in in a different location in the house over the weekend and see if I get the same result. But, I have the FiOS provided 8-way splitter fed from a home run from my ONT, and all rooms are on their own home run directly from the splitter as well, all cable is RG6 quad shield with matching compression fittings on each and every termination I installed myself when i bought the house. So each and every room of the house is technically the same.

    I am already nervous about having that 8-way splitter currently filled as I am on the horizon of beginning to think about finishing my basement, and that will require a 9th feed :eek:
     
  20. moyekj

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    You also need to consider that most TVs require calibration of each and every input. i.e. It's not apples to apples comparison until you have fully calibrated the TV for each device on each input. Personally I don't see a difference between Mini and a Premiere on my small bedroom 40" TV using HDMI, but I did have to calibrate the TV to the Mini since it didn't look right with default TV settings.
     

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