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It's 2014. Can we buy Cablecards yet?

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by plazman30, Jul 17, 2014.

  1. Bigg

    Bigg On the fence to being a cord-cutter.

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    Yup. Exactly.

    Wow, that's pretty bad! And he'll pay for whatever he bought with that several times over!
     
  2. HoosontheTeevo

    HoosontheTeevo New Member

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    Any chance Tivo owners will be able to buy our own cablecard anytime soon? Wasn't there legislation supporting allowing consumers to purchase their own set top boxes (and shouldn't that include the ability to buy a cablecard)?

    I don't understand forced rental of equipment. We already pay for the cable/internet service - the equipment should be buy-able. Verizon fios charges $4.99 per month. That's $300 for 5 years. unacceptable.

    THis site appears to indicate that when you purchase one of their DVR's it includes the cablecard? Would Verizon or Comcast activate this?

    Digital Cable Box and Modems | Stop renting and buy your own!
     

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  3. jakerock

    jakerock Hey ho howdy! TCF Club

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    I'm not an expert on this but I think that "you can buy your own box" assumes that you get a cable card from your cable company. That is what the cable cards are for. That is what TiVos are. Set top boxes that we buy. Cable cards are what allows the cable companies to control their content (and charge us money which is what they care about).
     
  4. HoosontheTeevo

    HoosontheTeevo New Member

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    thanks - but that's the same logic they would use to say "you have to rent our cable box to use our service".

    The service is the service - the cablecard - like the cablebox (replaced by our tivos) is equipment. they are forcing us to rent it - and we should have the option to buy it. this is 'Merica dammit! :)


    look at all these cablecards for sale.
    these are pieces of equipment we should be able to buy and pair with our tivo boxes...

    cablecard | eBay
     
  5. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Doesn't really matter at this point. The MSOs have convinced the FCC that apps for devices like Roku and AppleTV are suitable replacements for CableCARDs. So in the coming years it's likely that CableCARDs are going to get harder to aquire, not easier.
     
  6. tenthplanet

    tenthplanet Member

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    Ebay? take your wallet and run. These are unauthorized devices you or your cable company may never get working right.
     
  7. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Your cable company wont even try. Maybe if you have a small regional company, but none of the big ones will activate a CableCARD that you didn't rent from them.
     
  8. JoeKustra

    JoeKustra Cable only TCF Club

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    Quite true. I have bought two from eBay. One did nothing. Its part number was -002- and my Premiere didn't even see it. I bought another, part number -018-, which the Premiere could see, but not use. I think it has to be -017- or higher.

    When provisioning the cable card, the MSO has the card in its database already. Not there? Forget it.

    Three of those on eBay are -018-. The reset seem to be -002-. Only $10. ;)
     
  9. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Without activation the only thing a CableCARD can do is provide the TiVo with a channel map. Even then it has to be a make/model that is compatible with your cable companies equipment and you'll only be able to tune unecrypted channels. (most have gone full encryption these days, so that could be nothing)
     
  10. JoeKustra

    JoeKustra Cable only TCF Club

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    I've heard that. It seems like a very lucky person to have the same VCT as the original owner.

    My cable feed is so small that even premium channels are not copy protected. But everything (almost) is encrypted. I still have two clear QAM channels.

    Every three months or so, my feed has clear Premium weekends. All they do is remove encryption. The channel map is already loaded. I can even do a channel scan on my TV and get them. It reminds me why I don't pay for them.
     

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