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It's 2014. Can we buy Cablecards yet?

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by plazman30, Jul 17, 2014.

  1. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    I would. When they raised the price of my cable modem from $5/mo to $7/mo I started looking at buying my own and realized I could do so for $75 so I did. < year payback is my threshold.
     
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  3. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Good maybe if they come up with a good solution the other MSOs will use it too.
     
  4. dcline414

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    Charter used to give cable modems for free. Now they lease them for free, but I still have two of the ones they gave us.

    Of course that just means the cost is included in the service price, even if you buy your own. Charter also will no longer allow you to bring your own modem when starting new service.

    If cable cards become free (or go away) the cost of connecting third party devices like Tivo will just get buried in the total service price, and then you'll pay whether you bring your own equipment or use theirs.
     
  5. lessd

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    I purchase Lifetime TiVo service, the payback is more than a year, I think you also pay for Lifetime TiVo Service.
     
  6. HerronScott

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    Les,

    Your bill shows $7.45 for the CableCard itself? Our Comcast franchise charges $1.00 for additional CableCards (1st one free and I have 3 more with 2 original S3 TiVo for a total of $3.00 next to the CableCard line).

    I thought Comcast in general had decent CableCard rental costs across the board.

    Scott
     
  7. Bigg

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    Comcast is up to $8/mo for hardware that costs ~$60 at retail. RIP OFF. Cable modems can last a decade or more, depending on the technology used. They're good at least for a few years.

    You get one for free, so if you do a 4- or 6-tuner setup with Minis, no extra monthly fees!
     
  8. lessd

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    Comcast in my area (CT) just added the AO charge ($7.45/month) for each Cable Card after the first cable card (that one is free).
    I use to pay $1.00/month per card without any AO charge.
     
  9. slowbiscuit

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    No, they don't. They only say the rentals should be reasonable, and Comcast completely gets around that by imposing bogus A/O fees. FCC complaints about this practice have gone nowhere (mine included).

    And OP why does it matter that it's now 2014? The cableCos are trying to get rid of cards, not trying to make them cheaper or easier for folks to use.
     
  10. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Lifetime service adds resale value, so the payback is really not that much. If you look at a 3 year old Premiere unit with lifetime and without. The one without is basically worthless, you might get $50 for it. The one with lifetime is worth at least $250. So that adds $200 to the value by paying $400 for lifetime. Now MSD service is $12.95/mo so that's about a 16 month payback. Actually less if you sell sooner before something better is available.
     
  11. lessd

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    I agree, but still people use monthly.
     
  12. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    The cost of lifetime for a new owner is $500, add that to a minimum of $200 for a new TiVo and it's quite an expensive purchase. I think most people pay monthly because it's cheaper up front, not because it makes long term financial sense.
     
  13. mattack

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    Because people don't do cost/benefit analysis.. in general...
     
  14. tarheelblue32

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    Shhh, don't tell economists that. You will destroy their dreamworld.
     
  15. Fielding

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    $7.45 for a cable card seems like a rip..!!
     
  16. Bigg

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    Typical American short term thinking.
     
  17. FitzAusTex

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    Many people may not be able to afford the upfront lifetime cost, but are able to swing the monthly fee.
     
  18. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    If that's the case then they should save up and buy lifetime when they have enough. We, unfortunately, live in a culture where it's become all about the payment. So many people live right on the razors edge because they spend every dime they make on payments and never learn to save.
     
  19. lessd

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    Agree!
    When I gave a raise to one of my managers he went out and borrowed the amount he could with easy monthly payments = to the increase in his take home pay, changing his raise into a bonus, you can't live other peoples lives.
     

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