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Is Tivo EVER going to fix the awful Premiere software?

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by slice1900, Sep 3, 2012.

  1. astrohip

    astrohip Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    Agree. About once a month or so I'll switch to HDUI, usually to check out some feature I've read about in these forum that is HDUI only, and after a few minutes I'm right back to SDUI. I'm all about speed, speed, speed.

    It doesn't make any difference to the UI speed. I have both, and regardless of response time, the UI reaction is the same.
     
  2. David D

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    FWIW, I'm on my fourth Premier in 18 months. The first unit lasted 11 months with very few lock-ups and reboots. Around the 12th month, it would be on the TiVo start up screen when we'd turn on the tv several times a week, eventually becoming several times daily.

    We're now on the fourth unit and while improved, it still acts up several times a week, including the "TiVo service is not available..." message that requires a power down reboot. I've tried all the suggestions TiVo tech support has offered including putting the unit on a UPS with still unsatisfactory results. I'm at wits end with this and don't know what else to do. From what I gather from here and talking to TiVo tech support, these units are easily thrown by poor signal to noise ratio, multipath distortion, etc. which is common with OTA, which is what I use. I cannot get a straight answer from anyone at TiVo on a solution.
     
  3. astrohip

    astrohip Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    I tried this (both ways). No luck. I've never heard of "rebooting the GUI". Any other info on this? Anyone else heard of this?

    PS: I don't have any problems. I just had never heard of this process, and wanted to try it out of curiosity.
     
  4. beejay

    beejay New Member

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    Works for me (from TiVo Central HDUI)

    Never heard of it before but the screen goes blank for several seconds and then TiVo Central is redisplayed.

    I'll add it to my list of codes in case it seems it's ever useful for me.
     
  5. compnurd

    compnurd New Member

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    It has been posted by Tivo people in the past as an option
     
  6. astrohip

    astrohip Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    Maybe it's HDUI only. I'll try it that way. I'm an SDUI guy.:)
     
  7. DocNo

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    Hear hear.... For the most part they have the features and reliability down (otherwise I would have ditched Tivo for cheaper solutions long ago) - but the performance has always been frustrating. I may finally go the HTPC route. Combined with thinking of cutting the cable cord and going pure OTA and streaming, despite the hassles at least I will get a fast UI if I'm willing to pay for it!
     
  8. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Yes that's a technique for rebooting the HDUI. It has no effect on the SDUI. The SDUI is more low level. If it locks up you need to pull the plug and do a full reboot.

    Dan
     
  9. moyekj

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    FYI you can also reboot by holding down the "Format" button on the front of the TiVo for about 30 secs. (It's hard for me to reach power cord on my TiVo so I found that a good substitute).
     
  10. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Good tip, thanks. I had no idea you could do that.

    Dan
     
  11. bmgoodman

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    If I were a betting man, I'd wager that the rumored Tivo Series 5 platform is very different from current and will dump Java, orphaning the Premiere units to software upgrades. So I hope you like the Premieres you have....
     
  12. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    No different than previous versions. I'll just sell my S4 boxes to cover most of the cost of lifetime S5 boxes. Just like I did when I sold my S3 boxes to cover most of the cost of my lifetime S4 boxes.

    Sent from my HTC ReZound using Forum Runner
     
  13. astrohip

    astrohip Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    I do! And I love the two S3s I still have running.

    All these TiVos still record TV shows. Love it! :up:
     
  14. bmgoodman

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    I'm still thrilled with my S3 and Tivo HD. They're pretty bullet-proof, even if the Netflix is crappy. I understand the Premieres still have reboot issues. And a 10-minute boot time means chunks of missed recordings. No, thanks. But I'm glad you enjoy yours. I'm sure can't ALL have the reboot issue.
     
  15. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    If I were missing shows because of reboots I certainly would be pissed. But fortunately I'm not having issues with reboots.
     
  16. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    To me, there is almost nothing "fast" about the HDUI. After several updates, it is quite "usable", however.
     
  17. crxssi

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    They are not using Java, they are using Flash/Air.

    I seriously doubt the Series 5 will be different AT ALL from a software standpoint. It will probably be very similar to the Series 4 hardware, just with an integrated Stream and (probably/hopefully) a MUCH faster CPU and probably more RAM, possibly gigabit, and a few other do-dads.

    I also doubt they will orphan the Series 4. Those are just my predictions.
     
  18. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    That is only part of the bottom line.

    The rest of the bottom line is that the HDUI is so dependent on a live connection to TiVo's servers for uncached, live information, it can never really be fast, regardless of the hardware thrown at it.
     
  19. mikengrove

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    My premiere does the same thing. The live tv screen is always stuck on pause and tv goes black and remote becomes useless .have to unplug unit and restart..that is such a slow reboot time.
    I wish TiVo would get rid of all the useless stuff on HD display screen. I end up keeping screen on standard ,not the HD one
     
  20. Arcady

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    The Netflix on my Premiere Elite will crash the whole box about 25% of the time I try to use it. I've still got a TiVo HD connected to the same TV in order to use Netflix reliably.
     

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