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Is this really it?

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by anthonymoody, Jun 1, 2014.

  1. Series3Sub

    Series3Sub Well-Known Member

    Mar 14, 2010
    I have to agree. Look at what MP3's and the whole mobile platform has done to music. The far superior quality and experience of a CD just never appealed to the new generation, and that is the generation that does NOT have a DVR. They have streamed EVERYTHING all of their lives. Just like the MP3 music listeners who don't know how great music can sound and blow their socks off, the streaming generation have no idea of the advantages of the DVR and are ignorant of Level 3's exhausted backbone and the perils it brings to streaming.
  2. Series3Sub

    Series3Sub Well-Known Member

    Mar 14, 2010
    I'm afraid what anthonymoody says is quite likely to happen because that is where the world and the content owners (not the cable channel content providers) are going. However, I agree with you slowbiscuit, that it will be a sad day when it comes. I don't think we will even have hard copies like DVD or Blu-ray to purchase (Hollywood would love to get rid of what amounts to a "lifetime" license to their content), just in the cloud streaming with NO SKIP commercials (or the option of paying MORE not to have ads) and losing content here and there due to licenses expiring (like Netflix lost the Viacom content, especially parents upset that their kiddies are upset) and some, perhaps NEVER to be offered again because the streamers like Netflix have gotta save money and keep their, by now, $40 (eventually increasing) a month fee from getting any higher now that Hollywood know it gave away its content to Netflix. All the streaming cloud is doing is just moving all the channel content we now get from MVPD's over to the cloud and streaming services, who will eventually be owned by Comcast/Universal, et al. the same media companies who own the MVPD's today, including AT&T (DirecTV) and Verizon. Dish is launching what will be the first OTT service with traditional "cable" channels. Yeah, it IS happening.
  3. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

    Sep 19, 2006
    In the ATL
    No one denies that this fantasy world of anything being available anytime is a great thing, IF it was implemented with good trickplay controls that include ad skip. The problem here is that it is indeed a fantasy because the content providers don't want it your way. It is WAY more of a straw man for your view of what will happen than what barey and others here are saying will happen (the situation we have today).

    Again, there is no technical reason why this can't be done now. There is no technical need for a DVR - shows can all be streamed as MP4s in excellent quality with good audio. Netflix and Vudu do it, and we're quickly moving past the time where bandwidth was an issue.

    The streaming fantasy you wish for doesn't exist (and won't exist anytime soon, IMO) because the players don't want to make the deals to make it exist.
  4. CloudAtlas

    CloudAtlas New Member

    Oct 29, 2013
    $40! WTF? After years of adding content, including original, costing Netflix billions in yearly license fees - fees so high that analysts said Netflix would never be profitable - they finally raised their prices ... wait for it...$1.

    And these high fees were made even higher by the bidding wars between Amazon, Hulu, Netflix, and HBO. Yet you talk about Hollywood giving away content to Netflix? This is a total win for Hollywood.

    And Netflix is profitable now, without the current increase, and with the costly ongoing European expansion yet you talk about $40 a month fees as if there is any factual basis. As Netflix or any other streaming provider grows it's user base the high content fees become more affordable. Netflix's user base will surpass 50 million when numbers are announced in July.

    All they care about is adding more subscribers and keeping the current ones. Which is why the recent increase is so small and why current users won't see the price increase until June 2016.

    As for commercials and streaming Netflix is commercial free just like HBOGo, ShowtimeAnytime, Vudu, Amazon, et al. Only Hulu has commercials and that's because it's owned unfortunately by NBC, Fox and ABC. I say unfortunately because rather than grow the customer base like Netflix did they choose to be greedy and also get revenue from commercials. And the reason why Hulu+ only has 6 million customers.

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