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Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by vstone, Sep 12, 2006.
The HR10-250's menu is in SD. Did they fix that for the s3?
The S3 menu is 720p
And the video backgrounds (loopsets) are 16:9 (no more squashed logo/UI).
And the UI has been freshened up - everything is glossy and pretty now. Icons, menu bars, grid, etc.
uh, the cnet review shows some pretty crappy looking oval buttons (that should be round) and text that looks SD. Pony, can you clarify this?
PC Mag review says Menus are NOT HD...and they where disappointed.
Read the review here http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,2014569,00.asp?kc=PCRSS02129TX1K0000530
I was surprised to read that and it does not jive with my experience. Menus and fonts look fine, and the new program info bar and timeline looks SHARP - very nice with shading and whatnot.
If that is true, shame on PC Mag as they really point that out as a "con" for the series 3. This review is getting a lot of press on the net so if it's not accurate it could hurt TiVo as a lot of ppl take PC Mag (along with CNet) as gospel.
The video actually shows the bad text and stretched icons. So, unless they have a different software version or you aren't using on a widescreen hdtv display, I can't imagine the difference.
My display is 16:9 connected via HDMI. I'd be interested in how he connected it to his set and what video settings he specified. It's entirely possible he told the TiVo he was running 4:3 and let his TV stretch it to 16:9. Looks like megazone is also seeing decent results.
Yeah, I was just thinking that. If they set the TiVo to 4:3 output and used a 16:9 display - that'd stretch everything.
The weird thing was the text didn't look stretched though. It almost looked like it was squeezed together (the exact opposite of the icons).
Upon learning that the TiVo menus/graphics are 720p, it didn't take me long to conclude that the PCMag idiots probably had their output/display selections mismatched.
Considering the guy doing the demo is a HDTV expert (Robert Heron), I would be hesitant to call him an idiot. Maybe he didn't setup the demo which is likely. But, before you call people idiots, you might want to take a step back. If this is a common user mistake, you will be seeing these complaints on this forum in a few days. However, I have read/seen many reviews by Heron, and he is very knowledgable about all forms of HDTV technology.
The menus are 720p, but my question is whether they can be something else or are they fixed at 720p. My HDTV is older and does not display 720p on any inputs.
The S3 has a variety of output modes including 1080i hybrid and 1080i fixed which will take care of you. My CRT doesn't accept 720p either, and the 1080i solution looks great.
That's what they default to when using 'Native' output. If you set it to something other than Native, then they'll be scaled to that resolution.
You may want to give PC Magazine a call. They were pretty harsh about icons and fonts and claimed they were just "lifted" from the Series 2 software.
The photos that megazone provided were what made me REALLY want to get an S3. They actually looked great. I cannot believe they said that that the icons and fonts were "lifted" from the S2 software because they sure didn't look like it to me!
They looked like it on the PC Magazine setup. The issue is they seemed to be setup differently for some reason.
Even if the menus are in HD, there are still some spots that are missing a little of their sheen.
Take a look at a tall and thin TiVo Guy here:
Compare that to normal TiVo Guy here:
But then notice in that second shot, the check-mark is an oval, not a circle.
Regardless, can't wait for mine to show up