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Is Plus really worth double the price of basic?

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by saibari, Sep 21, 2013.

  1. BigJimOutlaw

    BigJimOutlaw Active Member

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    Some folks have reported issues with the older NIM 100's mixed with the Tivo's integrated moca. They don't seem to always play nice. Just something to keep in mind. The "work-around" would be not to use the integrated moca, which it sounds like you don't need.
     
  2. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I couldn't use my NIM100 as MoCA master and have the Elite or the Mini connect to it using their internal MoCA devices. Of course if you continue to use NIM100 adapters without using the internal MoCA devices that should be fine. Eventually I just bought a new MoCA 1.1 adapter (NIM100 was 1.0 I believe) and that worked fine with Mini and Elite. With that setup I was able to get rid of 2 external MoCA adaptors.
     
  3. ihtc

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    I ended up with the base model and the best buy triple points offer. I think for many multi tv homes the upgrade makes sense to the pro. For me I am in a one bedroom co op in NYC. So my upgrade was really to use a mini in bedroom because I actually had run a cat5 cable to the bedroom a year ago for a roku so I was set already. I actually don't have a coax cable in the bedroom . For two TVs the 4 tuners is plenty for my use. Since the mini only has 10/100 the upgraded speed of the pro Ethernet port would be eared on one mini. So for me and my use I couldn't justify the extra $200 since the experience would have ended up the same . The mini I did lifetime , the regular TiVo box I didn't because I have changed my box for the newer ones before the three year break even period based in my plan. Mini was a two year break even period so I went for that
     
  4. HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

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    But if you lifetime your main Roamio it'll be worth a heck of a lot more in a couple years, regardless of any break even points.
     
  5. dslunceford

    dslunceford Active Member

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    Is there a software setting to turn on/off internal MoCA?
     
  6. lessd

    lessd Active Member

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    Yes, you can set up for WiFi, direct Ethernet, or MoCA.
     
  7. dslunceford

    dslunceford Active Member

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    Thanks. So sounds like direct Ethernet should be the way to go using my current adapters....
     
  8. lessd

    lessd Active Member

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    Direct Ethernet would always be the best way, but most people (like myself ) don't have the jacks at each TiVo location so MoCA is the 2nd best for me and many others.
     
  9. waterchange

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    I use pytivo to access movies/media files stored on my computer. I played with Streambaby too but pytivo has just worked so that's what I use.
     
  10. jmpage2

    jmpage2 New Member

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    Well, he doesn't really have direct ethernet, he just has an existing MoCA setup which should still be able I guess to do what he's after, depending on how much traffic is running on that thing.
     
  11. mumpower

    mumpower New Member

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    FWIW, I own both. From the situation you describe, the base model would probably work for you. What I can say from my own usage is that the difference between two feels dramatic to me, so much so that I almost returned the base unit after a few hours.
     
  12. leiff

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    The user interface should be the same right? Difference being limited to case esthetics? One thing that does interest me is fan noise. Can you compare? My xl4 is too loud for me. Another reason im trying to sell my xl4.
     
  13. JasonD

    JasonD New Member

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    I would say that the plus is definately worth it. Better to have a feature and not need it, then to need it and not have it
     
  14. ihtc

    ihtc New Member

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    I agree there . These are worthless without a lifetime . My premier I paid almost $300 after tax and a three year warranty just last year I see them selling for $40
     
  15. wolfskinbjc

    wolfskinbjc New Member

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    how many tivo suggestions does the roamio use tuner wise?
     
  16. jmpage2

    jmpage2 New Member

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    As many as it wants to. Potentially all but one.
     
  17. mumpower

    mumpower New Member

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    The base unit is smaller, and it seems very breakable because of that. Simply stated, it feels like a cheap piece of electronics, which is exactly what it is.
     
  18. apw2607

    apw2607 New Member

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    I actually disagree. I prefer the style and look of the base Roamio over the plus/pro. The base just seems to work in terms of style and flow where as the plus/pro seems a bit of a Frankenstein design. On one hand you have the new look tivo front panel and on the other you have a very traditional case. I don't think the two go together very well.

    Regardless though. Plastic or not, I don't see how a plastic outer shell is anymore unreliable than a traditional metal one. It just sits on a shelf?
     
  19. mumpower

    mumpower New Member

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    I cannot speak for anyone else. I am a power user who will eventually upgrade all of my Roamios to 3-4 TB storage. What I know after several days is that if one of the TiVos is somehow knocked to the ground from the entertainment stand (hello, fellow pet owners), the base unit is the one I am confident would not survive the plunge.

    Also, I have already run into issues this week with the 4 tuners rather than 6. Thankfully, we can record up to 16 shows via our three Roamios so it was an issue corrected by the other devices. Long term, I'm going to move the base unit into the bedroom since I do the least amount of recording there so that I have access to 12 programs in the living room. There, it will be subjected to the most pet-related danger so I am glad I bought the Square Trade warranty.
     
  20. L David Matheny

    L David Matheny Active Member

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    Being lighter, the 4-tuner base Roamio may be easier to knock off. But if such a fall should occur, I would be more worried about the hard drive surviving than about any possible damage to the case.
     

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