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Is out of home streaming a scam?

Discussion in 'TiVo Stream' started by tamooreindy, Feb 4, 2014.

Have you attempted to use out of home streaming and succeeded?

Poll closed Feb 14, 2014.
  1. Yes, it works fantastic, this poster is full of crap.

    67.5%
  2. Yes, I tried but it wouldn't work, Tivo marketing is full of crap.

    15.0%
  3. No, I haven't tried. I'm sure someday Apple could do it if Tivo can't.

    10.0%
  4. No, I don't care about this.

    7.5%
  1. Mar 8, 2014 #81 of 165
    jimmypowder

    jimmypowder New Member

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    They take over your to Tivo output ?? Don't get it . You don't connect your Tivo to your TV via HDMI? Was Slingbox better at OOH streaming , in your experience?
     
  2. Mar 8, 2014 #82 of 165
    moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    Her point is that Slingbox can potentially interfere with another viewer using the TiVo at the same time you're using the Slingbox, whereas with the Stream that's not the case.

    Both solutions have their pluses and minuses, and I'm glad to have both. As I said before when you are OOH if you DOWNLOAD instead of STREAM you can get decent quality picture. You can let download proceed for a little and then start watching, then you get much better trick play capability than using Sling and you don't interfere with any potential home users of the TiVo. If the download is too slow or you really want real time OOH viewing then you can use the Sling instead. Having both gives you best of both solutions. Personally I prefer to use the Stream whenever feasible since it offers much better trick play and commercial skip capabilities. On occasion when Stream didn't work right I switched over to Sling.
     
  3. Mar 8, 2014 #83 of 165
    dianebrat

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    Exactly, and Tivo streaming meets my current needs, unfortunately our friend just will not let it go and insists on beating any opinion I have into the ground because we differ.
     
  4. Mar 9, 2014 #84 of 165
    jimmypowder

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    You didn't answer my question .

    Was the Slingbox OOH better audio and video quality ?
     
  5. Mar 9, 2014 #85 of 165
    jimmypowder

    jimmypowder New Member

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    I don't know many households that have only one tv but yes one of the reasons I bought a Roamio was the ability to watch a stream and not
    bother someone watching that tv .

    Sadly most of the premium channels I cannot stream and when I'm away those are the ones I wish to view . On top of bad video and audio quality .

    Thus I never use the Tivo for OOH .
     
  6. Mar 9, 2014 #86 of 165
    slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    Uh yeah, Tivo had no say at all in your opinion. Mine differs, but as dan said upthread we really don't know how much they bend over (or argue for us consumers, if at all). The real problem IMO is that Tivo is so far in bed now with the cableCos (and don't make money on us) that they probably don't push the issue as hard as they could.
     
  7. Mar 9, 2014 #87 of 165
    Austin Bike

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    Having been in technical marketing for 20+ years, I'd be willing to bet that this has less to do with tivo being "in bed" with anyone. They are a gnat compared to the size of the big cable giants. The reality is most likely that they are operating in a world where they don't want to piss off the big guys. They don't want to push too hard out of fear of being shut off altogether.

    Look at the size of the cable market and the penetration for tivo and you'll see that they are just barely on the radar screen.
     
  8. Mar 9, 2014 #88 of 165
    jimmypowder

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    This I completely agree with and is precisely why you will see no push from Tivo to get the cable companies to allow streaming via Tivo on all subscribed channels .
     
  9. Mar 10, 2014 #89 of 165
    slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    The point here is that their bread is not being buttered by us anymore.
     
  10. Mar 11, 2014 #90 of 165
    jimmypowder

    jimmypowder New Member

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    Tivo Ooh streaming is just plain terrible.


    I challenge anyone who has a Slingbox to tell me Tivo has better streaming quality .
     
  11. Mar 11, 2014 #91 of 165
    moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    We heard you the 1st time. If/when TiVo eliminates need for Proxy server my guess is OOH streaming should improve.
     
  12. Mar 12, 2014 #92 of 165
    jimmypowder

    jimmypowder New Member

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  13. Mar 12, 2014 #93 of 165
    moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    Your guess is as good as mine... May never happen.
     
  14. Mar 12, 2014 #94 of 165
    jimmypowder

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  15. Mar 12, 2014 #95 of 165
    bayern_fan

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    Wouldn't hold my breath for a direct OOH connection or Android support, and so I got a Slingbox. IMO, it's currently the best option for true OOH streaming.
     
  16. Mar 12, 2014 #96 of 165
    jimmypowder

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    Agreed. And it's not even close.
     
  17. Mar 12, 2014 #97 of 165
    Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    They said when they released OOH that there would be a major update in Q1 of 2014 that would enable more bitrates so that they could support OOH over 3G/LTE connections. (apparently Apple has rules about that) If we don't see an option for a direct port connection in that update I'd say we never will.
     
  18. Mar 12, 2014 #98 of 165
    jimmypowder

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    Without a direct connection,Tivo streaming is a scam as I see it.
     
  19. Mar 12, 2014 #99 of 165
    Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    There is an indication in the sysinfo screen that they were at least testing that. So I have hope that it will happen.
     
  20. kdmorse

    kdmorse Active Member

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    You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

    Is a slingbox better? Probably.

    But not being as good as a slingbox in your opinion, for your usage, does not make it a 'scam'. We all agree it could be better than it is. Maybe it will get there, maybe it won't.
     

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