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Is out of home streaming a scam?

Discussion in 'TiVo Stream' started by tamooreindy, Feb 4, 2014.

Have you attempted to use out of home streaming and succeeded?

Poll closed Feb 14, 2014.
  1. Yes, it works fantastic, this poster is full of crap.

    67.5%
  2. Yes, I tried but it wouldn't work, Tivo marketing is full of crap.

    15.0%
  3. No, I haven't tried. I'm sure someday Apple could do it if Tivo can't.

    10.0%
  4. No, I don't care about this.

    7.5%
  1. Feb 24, 2014 #61 of 165
    lickwid

    lickwid New Member

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    I know this is not totally related, but there is a program available for Jailbroken iOS devices called Flex 2, which supposedly allows restricted programs to be properly streamed and downloaded. However, I have yet to get it to work. But Flex 2 allows for enough flexibility to possibly get around that restriction.

    Delete if this discussion is not allowed.
     
  2. Feb 24, 2014 #62 of 165
    Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    If that is possible then TiVo will likely plug that hole quickly. Because of the way their streaming and encryption work they have the ability to block this at the Stream hardware if they really want. If they're doing it at the software level now it's probably out of convenience, but because it depends on proprietary hardware they always have an option of blocking it at a lower level.
     
  3. Feb 28, 2014 #63 of 165
    eboydog

    eboydog Just TiVo'ing.....

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    In the little testing I have done, my Stream ooh works as intended. I have ran my iPod touch wifi off my Android hotspot with my Android at times only having 3G cell service for the data going to the hotspot and it works fine. For those having issues I suspect it might be more related to their home network having limited upload bandwidth from their home network. My home Internet service has 5mb up which is slightly higher than most residential Internet service, I would be curious if those who are having issues would test their home Internet bandwidth and see if there is a relationship to lower upload limits.

    You must have decent Internet upload speed off your home network were your Tivo and the Stream device is located, in terms of quality, most residential ISP's provide terrible upload capabilities both in terms of low bandwidth and high latency. Most ISPs hate home servers of any type which is what the stream technically is.

    I don't believe it's a scam, it's more of a cool gimmick that attempts to do the most with several technical and legal restraints.
     
  4. Mar 1, 2014 #64 of 165
    Austin Bike

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    Mine worked ok on 512k uplink, even better with 3MB.
     
  5. Mar 1, 2014 #65 of 165
    Dan203

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    Haven't had the occasion to really try it yet. I have a business trip in April I'll get a chance to try it then.
     
  6. Mar 6, 2014 #66 of 165
    jimmypowder

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    OOH streaming is awful quality

    I don't even bother will it anymore and use the TiVo app to delete and set recordings .
     
  7. Mar 6, 2014 #67 of 165
    bparker

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    Definitely misleading, and you don't find out until you either buy and try or you watch the forums for people in similar areas. I hear that Cox in my area encrypts everything, so the stream is useless.
     
  8. Mar 6, 2014 #68 of 165
    CuriousMark

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    It is not about whether they encrypt or not, it is about whetherthey set the copy once flag or copy never flags.
     
  9. Mar 7, 2014 #69 of 165
    Austin Bike

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    You forgot to add "to me" to the end.

    Too many people are knocking this product because their cable providers are screwing them. The anger is really pointed in the wrong place.
     
  10. Mar 7, 2014 #70 of 165
    jimmypowder

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    Yeah the cable companies are screwing us , but TiVo shares some of the blame on promoting having your tv anywhere you are so heavily .

    They know full well that for many of their customers this is a pipe dream.
     
  11. Mar 7, 2014 #71 of 165
    dianebrat

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    That's BS, while for SOME users in either TWC or Frontier areas, there are overly aggressive service restrictions, that's not the experience for the majority of the users out there, for those users they can stream anything but the premium channels, it's not Tivo's fault some CableCOs are greedy SOBs. There's no reason for Tivo to take the hit on the CableCO being morons.
     
  12. Mar 8, 2014 #72 of 165
    jimmypowder

    jimmypowder New Member

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    It's hardly BS . I'm in a Comcast area and there are plenty of restrictions .

    I don't see Tivo attempting to work with the cable companies to remove some of these restrictions , do you ?

    Your comment is B.S .
     
  13. Mar 8, 2014 #73 of 165
    jimmypowder

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    Tivo streaming quality is garbage anyway . Poor picture , bad audio quality

    I'll use my Slingbox , where I can watch ALL of my subscribed channels not just a few .
     
  14. Mar 8, 2014 #74 of 165
    dianebrat

    dianebrat I refuse to accept your reality TCF Club

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    I can stream each and every channel I'm subscribed to, if I had an HBO, etc I would not have been surprised to not be able to stream it.

    We went through this in your other thread, we have a differing of experiences.
     
  15. Mar 8, 2014 #75 of 165
    jimmypowder

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    Buy a Slingbox and compare the quality . You obviously don't have one otherwise I have no doubt you would think Tivo OOH streaming is poor quality . I was just on a trip . Tried Tivo OOH and it was horrendous quality . Went to my Slingbox app on the same network . HD quality !

    I have no doubt you have ever used place shifters like Monsoon , Slingbox , Sony , Belkin in the past .
     
  16. Mar 8, 2014 #76 of 165
    dianebrat

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    It's just not a problem for me, the Tivo quality is fine for what I use it for, YMMV obviously.
     
  17. Mar 8, 2014 #77 of 165
    jimmypowder

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    Like I said you have never used another place shifter , ever . So how can you say Tivo OOH streaming is great when you have not used another place shifter to compare it to ??

    Your comments on how great Tivo OOH is has now been exposed as a fraud .
     
  18. Mar 8, 2014 #78 of 165
    dianebrat

    dianebrat I refuse to accept your reality TCF Club

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    I have used other place shifters, and I have said that the Stream works just fine for MY needs, there's no need to start making personal attacks because you disagree with my opinion. I don't know why you keep making assumptions about MY experiences and/or the lack thereof just because they don't agree with yours.
     
  19. Mar 8, 2014 #79 of 165
    jimmypowder

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    Ok which model and brand ?

    How did it compare to Tivo OOH ? Honestly ??
     
  20. Mar 8, 2014 #80 of 165
    dianebrat

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    Multiple Sling devices, since they take over Tivo output, they did not meet my needs, Stream meets my needs and gives an experience that works the way I need it to, I can stream ANY item I have recorded on my Roamio or Premiere.
     

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