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is clicking hard drive or PS?

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by mcf57, Jan 15, 2014.

  1. mcf57

    mcf57 New Member

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    I recently heard a slight clicking coming from my Series 3 TiVO (TCD652160). I unplugged and reboot it and it came back fine & is still working fine, but I wonder if this is a sign of a problem about to occur. Is this usually the hard drive or could this also be a sign of the power supply going?

    At some point I will open it up and inspect it inside manually for bulging caps, but just wondering what this sounds more like.
     
  2. ferrumpneuma

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    I don't think the PS has moving parts.
     
  3. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    But thanks to stuff like magnetostriction it doesn't need what one ordinarily considers "moving" parts in order to make clicking sounds.

    But if it's not spontaneously rebooting when the clicking happens, it's probably not the power supply.

    Yet.
     
  4. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    The kind of problem that makes a TiVo power supply make a clicking sound would probably cause it to spontaneously reboot, or at least freeze up.

    Are you still running the original hard drive?

    Of course, that TiVo is one of the models where the power supply is always suspect until you replace the majority of the capacitors, and you can have power supply and hard drive problems at the same time.

    And I suppose it's not completely impossible that the sound is coming from a fan in need of relubrication or replacement.

    Suggest you hit Home Depot or Lowes or somebody and get a $5 set of handle and Torx bits, including a #8, a #10, and a #15, as you stand a good chance of needing them before too terribly long.

    And it wouldn't hurt to have a voltmeter and high-wattage soldering iron or gun around as well.
     
  5. mcf57

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    It is indeed the original 160GB drive so I can imagine this might be the first sign. I have replaced another TiVo drive with WinMFS and maybe I should just do that here too. Essentially upgrade the unit AND fix the problem.

    In the meantime, I am currently offloading/transferring its recordings to one of my Premieres while I can and before it totally dies on me.

    I will also check the fan if it happens again.

    From this forum, I am well aware of the PS issues & will look at it when I remove the hood, but I don't feel real comfortable changing them out and/or soldering new ones on just yet. I guess if the PS becomes the real issue here, I will then go from there.
     
  6. unitron

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    You can use the free version of TiVo Desktop to copy your shows to a folder on an NT formatted partition on a PC running XP SP3 or newer, and then copy them back to the new HD internal drive once you get that done as well.

    But for now, get yourself a 2TB WD20EURS--you should be able to find one at newegg or Amazon for $100 or less with free shipping, and use WinMFS to copy the 160 to it via

    mfscopy

    if it doesn't die on you first.

    (if it does, I hope it doesn't happen until you've copied all of the shows off)*

    When it completes the copy and offers to expand, tell it no.

    Then, having previously selected the 160 prior to running

    mfscopy

    go back and select the 2TB and click on

    mfsinfo

    just to make sure everything looks okay.

    Then expand by clicking on

    mfsadd

    and tell it you don't want to limit partition size to 1.2TB


    Or after running

    mfsinfo

    you can shut down, stick it in the TiVo and make sure it works okay, and then go back and expand.

    I don't know exactly why expanding as part of copying is sometime problematic, I just use the workaround and it works.


    *If the 160 dies before you can copy it to the 2TB, I can hook you up with a .tbk image to put on the 2TB with WinMFS


    As for the power supply capacitors, it's about as simple an unsoldering and soldering job as anyone would ever encounter.
     

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