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Initial impressions and details of the TiVo Premiere Elite

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by jfh3, Oct 9, 2011.

  1. Oct 9, 2011 #141 of 1064
    djwilso

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    I don't have my M-card or TA yet, but am able to so far transfer non-copy-protected shows from my original OLED Series 3.

    I have activated it with PLS and opted to get TiVo's 3-year extended warranty. The software updated to 14.9.AB4-01-2-758 as others have noted.

    I have noticed two problems thus far:

    1. The Daylight Saving Time setting is not correct for my location. It is set to DST=Yes even though I'm in Phoenix and we don't observe DST ever. The clock is correct on my S3 but is an hour ahead on my Elite. The zip codes are set to the same value on both DVRs.

    I didn't notice if the time was right before the service update was installed.

    Anyone else with this problem? Should I call Tech Support about this?

    2. My server running pyTiVo is not showing in the My Shows list or in the Music & photos menu. It is showing up fine on my Series 3 (as always). I have confirmed that my network connection on the Elite is working and I have no firewalls running on my internal network.

    I assume this is related to the missing Video Providers and lack of Netflix and Amazon that everyone else is seeing. In System Information, the TiVOToGo setting is a,a,a as it is on the S3.
     
  2. Oct 9, 2011 #142 of 1064
    jfh3

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    This is not new to the Elite - the Premiere has this problem as well (only on the HDUI)
     
  3. Oct 9, 2011 #143 of 1064
    DCIFRTHS

    DCIFRTHS I dumped SDV / cable

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    Thanks for posting this info. I was hoping that it would have worked.
     
  4. Oct 9, 2011 #144 of 1064
    aaronwt

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    It seems to be more robust. I am currently recording four HD shows while concurrently transferring an HD show from the Elite and transferring an HD show to the ELite. It is not having any issues doing this.

    EDIT: I'm now watching a Previously recorded show in additiion to the above. So it's essentially reading/writing seven HD streams concurrently with no issues. I don't know what the transfer rate is but it is faster than realtime.
     
  5. Oct 9, 2011 #145 of 1064
    Tivogre

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    It also boots and installs software updates MUCH faster than the Tivo HD (and noticeably faster than the Premiere).
     
  6. Oct 9, 2011 #146 of 1064
    BigJimOutlaw

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    A lot of the issues being mentioned I remember popping up in the past. Mostly first day/activation lag. Or perhaps Tivo needs to flip a switch. Hopefully in the next day or so they resolve themselves.

    Finally got to play with one (not mine, sadly. lol) Anybody else notice how fast boot times and scrolling through the EPG are? Wonder if that is the new hardware or software...
     
  7. Oct 9, 2011 #147 of 1064
    Tivogre

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    weeknees.com now says:

    "First Allocation is Committed. Order now for shipping by 10/14."
     
  8. Oct 9, 2011 #148 of 1064
    sbiller

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    Decided to connect the Elite to my Kill A Watt. Looks like its drawing 19-20 Watts.

    ~Sam
     
  9. Oct 9, 2011 #149 of 1064
    aaronwt

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    Yes.
    It seems to be much more power efficient than the Premiere
     
  10. Oct 9, 2011 #150 of 1064
    djwilso

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    I switched back to the SDUI. The time is still being displayed 1 hour late and the System Information screen still says Daylight Saving Time.

    After switching back to SDUI I forced a connection (no difference), and then rebooted (no difference), and then repeated Guided Setup. No changes.

    The time on the channel banner, the S-P-S-9-S time, and the System Info screen all have the time 1 hour late.

    Does anyone know how I can correct this? Should I try a clear and delete everything?
     
  11. Oct 9, 2011 #151 of 1064
    rainwater

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    It's doubtful you can fix it yourself. It seems to be a problem with the timezone file on the TiVo itself.
     
  12. Oct 9, 2011 #152 of 1064
    sbiller

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    Premiere Elite Start-Up Time = ~3:11
    Premiere Start-Up Time = ~ 7:17

    It appears there is significantly greater horsepower in the Elite's Broadcom chip. I suppose some of the increased boot up time could be related to software differences but I doubt TiVo is concerned about start-up time.
     
  13. Oct 9, 2011 #153 of 1064
    magnus

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    Yep I would have tried too. :)
     
  14. Oct 9, 2011 #154 of 1064
    moyekj

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    That's actually a welcome change and something I've been asking for for a while. It's easy to overpress 3x FF and when you do it's 3 more presses. I always use play to resume normal speed anyway so 4th FF resuming play never made much sense to me.
     
  15. Oct 9, 2011 #155 of 1064
    aaronwt

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    Is that time issue only a problem for areas that don't use Daylight savings time?
     
  16. Oct 9, 2011 #156 of 1064
    aaronwt

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    Could it also be related to the software version?
     
  17. Oct 9, 2011 #157 of 1064
    djwilso

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    Obviously, I can't. I went ahead and did the Clear and Delete Everything.

    And even though I had been in the SDUI prior to starting the Clear, when it was finally done through Guided Setup again, it came back up in the HDUI. :(

    And the time is still wrong after switching back to the SDUI again. :rolleyes:

    Will things record at the proper time, or will everything be an hour off? Is this something TiVo can fix on their side for individual DVRs? Or am I going to have to return the box and get my PLS refunded? That would be a huge pain.

    I'll find out about the recordings tomorrow after I pick up the M-card and TA. Will report back.

    EDIT: I see the times in the guide are an hour later too, so recordings will be ok. However, the WAF took a dive due to this.
     
  18. Oct 9, 2011 #158 of 1064
    djwilso

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    I came up with another issue.

    When the Elite is connected to my Sony Bravia KDL-46S2010, no video is output by HDMI.

    Strangely, the TiVo still seems to be able to determine that 1080i is the maximum resolution supported, but that may just be some sort of default.

    When I go through the resolutions test in the Video setup, still nothing. It's like it's not connected. Connecting/disconnecting the cable makes no difference. Tried about 5 cables too. Nope. But an Xbox-360 and BD player work connected to the same HDMI port on the TV.

    It outputs through the component outputs just fine.

    And, on my other Sony TV (which is even older than this one) and my Asus monitor, HDMI works fine.

    Very strange.
     
  19. Oct 9, 2011 #159 of 1064
    puffdaddy

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    Presumably your premiere is running 14.8, while your elite is 14.9.
    If you were to peek at the kernels for each you would find this:
     
  20. Oct 10, 2011 #160 of 1064
    lgerbarg

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    I have no been having any luck with my Elite. I don't have an M-card yet (it is replacing an S3 that had two S-cards in it), but I figured I would at least be able to use it for Netflix and MRV, but so far no luck. Every time I try to go to VoD it says the network is unavailable. I should note that it is doing that despite the fact that it can download guide data, successfully have its season passes managed from TiVo.com, responds to the iPad app, and passes the network connectivity test in the networking settings menus. It also sees my other TiVos on the network, but when I navigate into them in My Shows it claims those TiVos do not have any recordings on them.

    I've tried rebooting, unplugging it, forcing connections to TiVo, switching between HD and SD menus, etc. It has downloaded the software update and is signed up for PLS. Any ideas?
     

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