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Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by bbrown9, Dec 20, 2013.
So don't watch (like me). Product launches are not normally done before the doors open.
Looks look TiVo is going to try to check all the boxes this year starting with CES. These are still educated guesses at this point, but we may see...
Android Stream Support
Amazon Prime Streaming App
Cellular Stream support
These are some big items, anything else you are hoping to see?
At this point, I'll believe it when I see it.
Interesting... I thought I created a new thread.
Did a mod move it into this existing thread? No big deal, just surprised me, I don't think that has ever happened to me before.
I am betting two of the three on this list will be announced at CES and wouldn't be surprised to see them all.
The question isn't whether we will see them, the question is how long between the announcement and actual delivery we will have to wait.
In the past TiVo has kept new products in the realm of a rumor and really couldn't be criticized for missing a delivery date. If the truly, publicly announce these items at CES, I hope they are ready to deliver - in a reasonable timeframe.
They showed the original S3 TiVo at CES and then didn't deliver it until September that year so don't be too shocked if we get announcements that don't come to fruition right away.
What are the odds that Android Stream support gets pushed to 2015?
I still can't believe it has been this long.
I'll take that bet.
That it will get pushed? Or that it wont?
I wouldn't take the bet either way as TiVo is completely unpredictable.
How about a Verizon/TIVO partnership?
Verizon's next platform VMS seems to be going nowhere fast.
That would be great, but very unlikely.
Probably lots of promotion of VMS next week, though I gave up on it.
I'd like to see official SDK for mindrpc related functionality and SDK for video streaming to and from a TiVo (not via Opera but the kind of access Netflix seems to have). I don't expect to ever get either one of those, but one can always dream...
My guess is on SDK front at best they will offer up a lame Opera browser based SDK which is not very useful for video streaming given it is restricted to mp4 container with H.264 video and aac audio only. i.e. Nothing beyond what can already be done without an SDK with built in Opera browser.
I'd also like to see browser client support for TiVo Stream (to extend it to laptops/desktops instead of just iOS/Android), but doubt that's on the horizon any time soon, if ever.
Yeah, I wonder what happened there... Investing less in the FiOS hardware? Sidetracked by the Arris/Moto merger? New streaming features slowing down development? Hm. Just pinged my Verizon PR person for more. Although I may not be able to share anything I learn until next week.
I actually think this might happen. Encrypted HLS is supported via Flash now, and TiVo already showed a browser based version of their UI last year at the cable show. So the pieces to make it happen exist already.
I am actually pretty upbeat on TiVo at the moment. The tempo of development and delivery has been breath of fresh air considering the 2 year malaise they were in.
I think android support and cellular streaming will be demoed and come pretty quickly following CES. As for a new Amazon Prime client, call it wishful thinking.
Worthwhile SDK? I am not very optimistic outside what Opera already offers.
Web based client? I think TiVo is really missing the oportunity with this - but I am also not very optimistic for a near term solution.
How about implementation of dynamic tuner allocation for the stream?
I suspect what TiVo is trying to avoid is developing a utility that can feed a large screen - and compete with the Mini.
The portal has already soft launched for RCN... yet there hasn't been a press release/announcement by TiVo or RCN yet. Probably coming soon?
And here's the video I shot at the Cable Show. What they add to it is limitless, just depends on licensing stuff for folks like RCN and a desire (for stuff like retail Roamio/Stream access).
[YT="TiVo Everywhere Portal"]nYJKgJ_tVfs[/YT]
Maybe, but I think the limitations on the Stream thus far have been technical and not some fear of competition with the Mini. They use encrypted HLS for streaming, which was not widely supported outside of Apple products until recently. It was only added to Android in 4.0 and fully supported in 4.2, and only added to the Flash player plug-in for the desktop back in July. The ability to expand the Stream to other devices, without having to convert to a completely different protocol, has only recently become possible so I'm not sure limiting the Streaming to iOS until now is really an indication of intent. I think it's more an indication of technical limitation.
Although why they lock down HDMI and AirPlay I'm not sure. However that could be something they do to appease Cable Labs and not to prevent competition with the Mini.
Personally I think using the Stream in place of a Mini would be a poor experience anyway, so I'm not sure many people would use it like that even if it were an option.
When you watched that demo did they ever show the ability to actually play video via that portal? Or even have a placeholder where that might be?
The demo probably wasn't for public consumption at the time... and I assumed having it out in the open was an oversight - so I quickly took a few pics and just shot this little video before anyone stopped to wonder what I was looking at. Whatever's in there is pretty much most/all of what I saw.
EDIT: I should add that the site looked like a beta for RCN but was hosted on a "tvetest" TiVo URL. Also, I found a pic where there was an on demand playback option. Unfortunately, doesn't look like I have any photos from a NPL/recording.
OOH streaming not restricted by the ridiculous CCI byte would be welcomed.
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