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I will be leaving tivo soon

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by tootal2, Jul 19, 2012.

  1. mr.unnatural

    mr.unnatural Active Member

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    Ellicott...
    Congrats! You just referred to about 95% of the forum membership as fools.:p If I put the disclaimer in every post then you guys would be griping that I'm being too repetitive.:rolleyes: Like it or not, Windows PCs are here to stay. The vast majority of the population uses them and virtually every large business uses them, regardless of what you think about them. I'm no fan of anything Microsoft but I have to admit that Windows 7 is the best thing that's come out of Redmond in decades. It's more stable than any version I've used in the past. Media Center is just icing on the cake.

    I use a Windows PC every day at work. I've also used Unix workstations, Linux-based systems, and Macs. Frankly, a Windows PC does everything I need it to and I rarely have issues with them. I've been using the same Windows PC at home for years without so much as a single glitch that was software related. I've also got a Hackintosh that I built that I haven't even turned on in over a year. I stick with my Windows PC because it's what I'm used to, same as you guys are with your Tivos. It's just something that resides within your comfort zone.

    I'd be curious to know what impact Win 7 with Media Center has on Tivo's subscriber numbers based on this article. Tivo's subscriber base has apparently shrunk from a peak of 4.36 million in January of 2006 to a level of 1.93 million as of July 2011. Sounds to me like there aren't as many happy Tivo customers as there used to be.
     
  2. nrc

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    Nah, I give them the benefit of a doubt and assume that many of those who have one really don't want another.
     
  3. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    I definitely want another. I will certainly be upgrading at least four of my systems to Windows 8.:)
     
  4. tootal2

    tootal2 Active Member

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    I just got my second ceton card installed in a second computer. now i just need a ceton echo for my bedroom.

    There is one thing i like about wmc is watching the olympics in fast forward with sound.

    on thing i dont like about wmc is the power use. my computer uses 100watts recording shows and upto 600 watts when playing games.
    but its hibernates about 10 hours aday.
     
  5. emphasis

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    bye and good luck
     
  6. mr.unnatural

    mr.unnatural Active Member

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    Let me guess. You own a Mac, right?:rolleyes: If that's the case then it's no wonder you don't have a problem paying outrageous fees for proprietary hardware and software with little or no upgradeability. Nice computers, but completely overpriced and overhyped.
     
  7. mattack

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    You don't know what you're talking about.
     
  8. tootal2

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    You forgot macs are also bad at gaming.

     
  9. nrc

    nrc Cracker Soul

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    Nope, Linux. The only Apple product I've ever purchased was a refurb iPod to run Rockbox. But I don't disagree that Apple products would probably be better for most consumers than Windows PCs.

    A MS advocate complaining about Apple's proprietary hardware and software is very much a pot/kettle scenario.
     
  10. tootal2

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    Gamers do not use macs! I used redhat fedroa linux for about a year before windows 7 came out. and i like windows 7 a lot better. I did think that cube thing was kind of neat in linux.

     
  11. mr.unnatural

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    Who you calling a MS advocate? I can't stand Microsoft, regardless of what I think about Windows 7 and Media Center. I also don't like any company that hamstrings the consumer with a system that only allows the use of hardware and software they provide at ridiculous prices. I use Windows because it's what I'm used to and it also allows me a lot more choices.

    Linux would have been my next guess. You're still somewhat restricted by hardware and software choices unless you know how to write your own drivers. Still, it's a bit more flexible in some ways than the Mac OS.
     
  12. mr.unnatural

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    Really? Last time I checked I couldn't just buy a new motherboard, CPU, and memory from Newegg to upgrade a Mac to the latest and greatest. It requires purchasing an entirely new Mac. I can rejuvenate my PC with a minimal investment of only $200-300 whereas a new Mac would probably cost at least 5-6 times that.
     
  13. dan0

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    I hope you dont use windows media center
    http://www.pcworld.com/article/256629/add_windows_media_center_to_the_windows_8_release_preview.html
    http://www.pcworld.com/article/255060/like_windows_media_center_dont_upgrade_to_windows_8.html
    http://pcper.com/news/General-Tech/Windows-Media-Center-Be-Pro-Only-Feature-Windows-8
     
  14. aaronwt

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    No I don't use WMC. I used it some a long time ago with XP but that was it.

    Sent from my HTC ReZound using Forum Runner
     
  15. mr.unnatural

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    Ellicott...
    Microsoft will be offering Windows 8 Professional as an upgrade for $39.99 through January 31 of 2013 and will be including Media Center as a free download. The fact that many people are not happy about the decision indicates the popularity of Media Center among enthusiasts. Sadly, this is so typical of Microsoft to abandon a product that many consumers have embraced.

    Considering that Windows 7 should be around for at least another 7-8 years and probably longer there's no reason to panic about the loss of Media Center. Chances are at least one third party software developer will bite the bullet and get certified by CableLabs to support the various tuners currently available.
     
  16. tootal2

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    Its going to cost 39.99 to upgrade to windows 8 with windows media center included. you have upgrade online to get this deal.

    you can even upgrade xp to windows 8 for 39.99.


     
  17. mr.unnatural

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    You have the option to install from the website or download the files to your PC so you can burn it to a DVD or put it on a flash drive and install it from there. I believe they provide instructions for installing from a flash drive.
     
  18. lrhorer

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    Yeah, by definition...and by the same definition laptops are designed to go everywhere!!! :D:D:D

    'Sorry, I just couldn't resist. The target was just too easy.

    Frankly, I consider laptops impractical for almost any use. They make unacceptable compromises to accomplish unnecessary things.

    They do? I find it hard to think of any use for a tablet, "use" being defined as "something I would ever want to do".

    'An exaggeration, of course, but not by much. They do make pretty good book readers, but my Kindle makes a better one for one whole heck of a lot less money.

    Faster, more powerful, more storage, more flexible, support a vastly greater number of peripherals, have a screen that is actually usable, are practical to use for controlling external devices, are vastly more ergonomic, support multiple optical drives, are far, far less fail, are practical for use in a RAID system, are harder to steal and essentially impossible to lose, stand up better to prolonged use...

    Should I continue?
     
  19. lrhorer

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    Unfortunately I am stuck with quite a few. I don't want any at all.
     
  20. lrhorer

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    Not so much, really. Almost every Windows app has one or more Linux analogs. Many have ports for both. Most Windows apps will run directly under wine or dosbox. There are a few - very few - exceptions. Unfortunately VideoRedo is one. Some people have reportedly gotten it to run under wine, but I haven't. I have experienced far more intractable hardware problems with Windows (especially XP and Windows 7) than with Linux.

    I'm about a hair's breadth from being inclined to say no one who can't write a driver should be allowed anywhere near a PC. It would surely make my life a hell of a lot easier and less stressful. OTOH, one of the great beauties of Linux is the developers are almost all easily accessible, so one does not need to know how to write a program or driver one's self. With a Mac or Windows, if I have a problem I cannot fix myself, my only recourse is to either abandon the project or else wait forever on hold on the phone so I can pay a huge amount of money to speak to some flunky who knows less about the PC than my dog... and then abandon the project. If I have a problem with a Linux app, I either submit a bug report using reportbug, or fire off an email to the mail list, or else fire off an email to the primary developer.

    And both are obscenely rigid compared to Linux. IMO - and this time I am not kidding - I think it should be illegal to distribute any software that is not open source.
     

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