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I thought six tuners was enough, but perhaps not ...

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by gweempose, Sep 26, 2013.

  1. jmpage2

    jmpage2 New Member

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    In my experience BD is still better. Also on the audio front streaming is a joke. 99% of content has 640kbps DD 5.1 at BEST. I have a $5K+ audio setup and those low bit rate audio tracks typically sound pretty crappy.
     
  2. aaronwt

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    VUDU does look good. I've been using Vudu since 2007 and it has improved alot since six years ago.. But if I compare Vudu directly to a BD, the difference is easy to see. But Vudu is still very good and convenient.
     
  3. mattack

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    I don't have a citation, but I'm fairly certain that they *claim* that they barely ever get requests for it. I sure think the guy on the Engadget HD podcast has mentioned that.

    (I've said it before -- as big of a fan of Tivo as I am, I'd pay MORE than I pay now for cable, if I could just get "everything", without commercials. I put everything in quotes, since I realize there are licensing deals and it's not literally everything always.. but e.g. current shows, and at least sometimes past seasons.. I'd probably want to still have ONE OTA capable Tivo going for the few things I want to record to keep... but mostly being able to not have to deal with tuners, disk space limitations, padding, etc.. would be great.)
     
  4. ShoutingMan

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    TiVo's guide data does not reflect reality. So it is tivos fault. They're selling a service of a trustworthy DVR. They should strive harder to provide that.

    This is not a new issue. TiVo could work, perhaps through crowd sourcing, to quickly update their guide data to be accurate, rather tan chronically off by two minutes in both directions.
     
  5. stahta01

    stahta01 Simple Member

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    Yeah, this way they can be off by hours.

    :D

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  6. lpwcomp

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    It's TiVo's fault that the scheduling data provided to them by the networks and local stations (through TMS) is inaccurate? It is not "chronically off by two minutes in both directions", at least not for most people.

    "crowd sourcing"? How the heck would that help?
     
  7. dswallow

    dswallow Save the ModeratŠ¾r TCF Club

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    There have been hacks that in older TiVo models implemented very acceptable methods of dealing with a couple minute differences in almost all situations. It's a shame TiVo hasn't implemented those itself. Specifically, automatically scheduling recordings a few minutes early through a few minutes later, without permitting such adjustments to cause a scheduled recording to be missed or cut. Those, plus an enhancement to permit a level of sharing between recorded videos such that a few minutes of overlapping video -- after a prior recording and before the next one, on the same channel, could be "owned" by both recordings.
     
  8. NJguy

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    May not find a higher capacity box with cablecards but cable companies are moving forward with their own service (no matter how bad it may be). For instance, Cablevision has a whole home solution that allows you to record 10 shows at once.

    What they fail to tell you is: You cannot rewind live TV, you only get a lousy 75 hours of HD recording, they story your recordings in the cloud (so there is no hard drive in your home), rewinding and fast forwarding through shows you record are terrible and lag is noticeable, you get bad pixelation because it's being sent from cloud, the Samsung boxes are not great and the cost for 3 TV's is $7 more per month than monthly cost of a TiVo Roamio and 2 mini's.

    So while it sounds good on commercials and in principle, the negatives of that far outweigh the positive and TiVo is way ahead of the game.
     
  9. jmpage2

    jmpage2 New Member

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    It comes down to how much consumers care about quality, and if Hulu is any indication the answer is "not much".
     
  10. ShoutingMan

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    It's TiVo fault that they give incorrect data to their customers. They should be reviewing and correcting data it before passing it on for DVR scheduling.

    I've encountered a few shows that are off by a couple minutes, for multiple seasons. (Fox seems particularly bad about this) but its a consistent thing , and should be booked into the guide data. And there's also the problem of sports and presidential speeches that delay shows; Tivo should be pushing out guide updates to account for those delays.

    What might they do? First, focus on prime time network show. Prioritize by most popular and make sure guide data matches actual broadcast times in major markets. Fix it if its off by a half a minute. That's the difference between enjoying a show and yelling at the stupid TiVo for ruining the ending.

    They could review users' season pass data. If people tend to pad recordings of a show, that probably means that shows guide data is wrong. So make a fix. And implement that fix for the next season automatically.

    Looking to the next gen TiVo, I'd like to see realtime push data. If potus is speechifying, push revised guide data to me immediately. Football shouldnt cause The Good Wife to be missed. I get email and texts within seconds of them being sent; there's no reason TiVo can't get me updates sooner than two weeks after its too late.
     
  11. HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

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    Hey, how did you know about the new TiVo Series Six they're working on?!?!?! You must be part of the "Super Secret Squirrel Beta program"! ;) :p
     
  12. HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

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    And you call yourself "ShoutingMAN"? Sheesh ;) :rolleyes:
     
  13. lpwcomp

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    :rolleyes:
     
  14. murgatroyd

    murgatroyd Don't stop believin'

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    The Olympics.

    YMMV.
     
  15. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    How many different channels broadcast the olympics simultaneously? More then 6.They're going to be on in the middle of the night because of the time difference so I can't imagine they'll conflict with anything other then themselves.
     
  16. uw69

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    Six tuners is more than enough for my household, but I can see a situation where large households, with multiple Mini's, it could reduce the number of available tuners to below a comfortable level.
     
  17. astrohip

    astrohip Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    I thought about a long, lengthy, well thought out reply, discussing all the issues SMan raises, but I see you beat me to it.

    :rolleyes:
     
  18. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    I think eight tuners would be perfect for me based on the conflicts I'm still seeing. But I wouldn't want to go back to paying for another cable card. I still can't believe I used to have eight of them on FiOS(and two on Comcast) It's so much better now having to pay for only one cable card.
     
  19. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    I had 6 at one point, now I'm down to 3. But I really don't need one of them. I have it in a Premiere, but that Premiere has been relegated to recording only analog channels so I don't actually need it. But Charter only charges $1.50/mo for them so it's really not a big deal.
     

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