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I thought six tuners was enough, but perhaps not ...

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by gweempose, Sep 26, 2013.

  1. gweempose

    gweempose Active Member

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    Exactly. At some point, everything will be available on demand. It's not a question of if, but when.
     
  2. wmhjr

    wmhjr Well-Known Member

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    I have two XL4s and one Premiere, along with two minis. So, effectively at this particular time I have 10 tuners, though I can only use 8 of them for any combination of recording/live due to mini tuner consumption. That's not terrible. I've learned to live without padding, though more and more I'm losing the last bit of an increasing number of major network shows.

    I would agree that at some point, the number of tuners will stop increasing and maybe functionality will change, as more streaming content will become the standard. Of course, as that happens it will likely create further competition for Tivo, as there is no real need for Tivo at that time and other solutions have proven to be better at delivering streaming content.
     
  3. jmpage2

    jmpage2 New Member

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    Sure and if Netflix is any indication the quality will stink and show availability will change every time the wind blows.
     
  4. larrs

    larrs Movie Fan-Addict

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    Well, availability changes with the wind already. How many shows have you seen get canned in the middle of a run with no resolution to any of the plot turns?
     
  5. lessd

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    ABC and FOX OD will not let you fast forward, you have no control, streaming has it place, but if normal TV goes away the experience of TV watching will go back to the 70s as you may not control ad skipping, all you would have is time shifting, I could not stand not being able to skip say parts of the nightly news that I have no interest in or have already seen, this lets me see the CBS,NBC and ABC nightly news in about 45 to 50 minutes. I do this skipping with other programs as well, if say Jay has a guest on that I want to see, the next day I may skip directly to that guest and not have to watch the rest of Jays tonight show, I love the control TiVo gives me.
     
  6. dswallow

    dswallow Save the ModeratŠ¾r TCF Club

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    This made me laugh. You don't get out much, do you Dan? :)
     
  7. gweempose

    gweempose Active Member

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    Are you referring to the quality of the content, or the picture quality? PQ will only get better as bandwidth increases and compression algorithms improve.
     
  8. kbmb

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    Gotta say.....the SuperHD that Netflix just rolled out looks pretty darn good to me.

    -Kevin
     
  9. moyekj

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    Don't know about your experience but to me Netflix Super HD feeds (6Mbps H.264) look better than most "HD" channels from my cable company. Amazon HD downloads still trump Netflix streaming though from my experience.
     
  10. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    And that will be a sad day in many respects, because you will lose control over how you watch a show.
     
  11. L David Matheny

    L David Matheny Active Member

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    Much of what I watch now I wouldn't watch at all if I were forced to sit through all the commercials. I guess I would have more time to do other things though. We will always have the option of just saying no.
     
  12. gweempose

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    Agreed. After using DVRs for so many years, I've come to positively loathe commercials. It's the main reason I can't stand watching stuff on Hulu.
     
  13. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    I'm surprised that Hulu doesn't offer a premium "commercial free" option for more money per month. I bet a lot of their customers would pay for it.
     
  14. jmpage2

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    Hulu would probably love to offer that, but I imagine that the networks won't allow it... at least at this time.

    6mbps Super HD on Netflix. I checked it out today and it's a big improvement but on my 65" Plasma BD still looks noticeably better, especially during lots of motion, dark scenes, etc.

    I agree with what slowbiscuit said. While many are cheering the idea of an "all you can eat buffet" of on-demand shows, it is highly likely that after they get everyone hooked they will jam them full of trailers, pop up ads, commercials and other things.

    If I really like something I don't count on "on demand" making it available for me, I buy it on Blu-ray, rip it to MKV and store the discs in a bin in my basement.
     
  15. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    BDs typically use 25-35Mbps, so it makes sense that it looks better. What's funny is that 6Mbps is considered "Super HD". In Europe they broadcast in H.264 and they still use 8-12Mbps.
     
  16. gweempose

    gweempose Active Member

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    When it comes to streaming, Vudu's HDX is still the one to beat. It's not quite as good as BD, but it's pretty darn impressive. Too bad it costs so much.
     
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  18. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    Well sure, against BD it's no contest. But for me compared to most cable "HD" it's very good.
     
  19. jmpage2

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    Well, it's a topic for another discussion but yes, the US broadband infrastructure is woefully inadequate for the task of streaming close to BD quality, especially as streaming becomes the 'norm'. Don't even get me started on mid viewing glitches, down-shift from HD to SD, etc... all courtesy of streaming.

    H265 will help but I think that BD will survive as a format for collectors of movies and shows for at least another 5-10 years.
     
  20. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    I don't know I watch a lot of movies via VUDU in their HDX quality and they're indistinguishable from BD to my eyes. I think they use like 10Mbs.
     

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