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Discussion in 'TiVo Stream' started by PCurry57, Jun 29, 2014.

  1. PCurry57

    PCurry57 Liberal Hippie Chick

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    Just wondering if there was any word on Android support. With the AEREO SCOTUS decision AEREO pulled the plug Saturday at 11:30am. I was ok using it as a substitute, now that it's gone I'm back to needing a TiVo Stream Android support.

    My tablet is 4.2.2 my phone is 4.4.2, perhaps Chromecast support would be off the chain.
     
  2. BigJimOutlaw

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    The last rumor said June. Even if it's not simultaneous with the impending summer update, I still believe we're close.

    One of Tivo's cable partners is saying:

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  3. PCurry57

    PCurry57 Liberal Hippie Chick

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    Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Viva la iOS!!!!!

    :D ;)
     
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    aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    Did they mean June 2015? At this point it would not be a surprise if it was.
     
  6. eboydog

    eboydog Just TiVo'ing.....

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    Come on Tivo, Android please!
     
  7. bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    I am guessing when it does come out, it will be for Kit Kat only...

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  8. eboydog

    eboydog Just TiVo'ing.....

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    Na, If there is a cutoff, 4.2 Jelly bean would be it.

    As much as version might be a issue I stand behind the reason for delay is legal and political with no bearing if any being technical.

    TiVo new business plan is providing cable company TiVo services and the cable companies have no desire to offer additional services such as mobile streaming. Such as my cable companies TiVo service doesn't include many of the traditional TiVo services such as internet streaming (netflix, hulu) or even MRV such as TiVo desktop/pytivo. Now that MSO's don't have to support cable cards in their own boxes, the days of cable card and retail TiVo services are coming to an end.

    We are headed back to the dark ages were a cable company provided box will be required and they (the cable company) will be the only ones who have the final say in how you watch TV. TiVo was no need to expand an infrastructure that will not be around in five-ten years.
     
  9. bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    HTTP Live Streaming (HLS) support was first offered in 4.2, and updated to the more modern version in 4.4...

    It is possible it could work with 4.2, but I am betting Android streaming will be limited to version 4.4 - and since the cell providers are stingy on their software updates for Android - only the newest phones and tablets will see the functionality.
     
  10. Austin Bike

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    I was talking to a friend of mine who is a developer. He said that the combination of device and OS proliferation makes android development a mess. While he could create android versions of his apps, it just never makes sense. The extra fly in the ointment is the carriers who have all types of restrictions on what you can/cannot load/change.
     
  11. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    If they stick with HLS then I agree 4.4 is likely going to be the target. From what I've read HLS on 4.2 is a nightmare and really unstable.

    However if they switch to MPEG-DASH then they could go back even further and even add support for Windows. DASH is based on the MP4 format so it's supported on almost all OSes. It wasn't a standard back when the Stream was released, but it is now and it's got way better compatibility then HLS.
     
  12. bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    MPEG-DASH is an interesting read...
     
  13. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Just reading something that said Apple requires all video streaming apps on the App Store to use HLS, which means the Stream would need to continue to use HLS for iOS and DASH for other devices. If these stupid companies would just agree on a standard they'd make it a lot easier for all of us.
     
  14. Austin Bike

    Austin Bike New Member

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    It's actually not the technology companies driving these decisions, it is the media companies. They are the ones driving encryption.
     
  15. FROD

    FROD New Member

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    My Nexus 7 would so love some sweet TiVo Stream. TiVo says soon...are they to be believed? Or are they just holding out till Apple acquires them and folds them into some sort of new Apple TV? Apple just bought Beats. TiVo has the best DVR, hands down, and are in a position to be bought. Apple with TiVo technology would be another game changer for Apple. Looks at how seamless TiVo Stream works on iOS. Apple wouldn't have to do much. TiVo's hardware design team was cut. Hmmmmmm....

    Forum bombs flying in three, two, one...
     
  16. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Apple is never going to buy TiVo. If they wanted a DVR they'd just make their own.

    As for whether or not their "soon" can be trusted... at this point I'd say no. They've been saying "soon" for way to long. At this point it could be days away or it could be years, we honestly have no idea.
     
  17. aaronwt

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    Boy I hope Apple never buys TiVo. I have not owned any Apple Hardware going back to the 70's. I have no desire to start anytime soon.
     
  18. JWhites

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    Pretty interesting stuff now that TiVo announced they'll support Android for streaming in September. Tech support already told me there's gonna be major overhauls to everything so hope it's good :)
     
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