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I hate, hate, HATE the updated Netflix app!!!

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by escrge, Aug 22, 2012.

  1. rainwater

    rainwater Active Member

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    It actually is resolution switching that you are seeing. The PS3 doesn't have that problem because it plays at a fixed format (1080p or 720p or 1080i). So when the stream goes from 720p to 1080p on the PS3 it just converts it to the fixed format. TiVo can't do that for 1080p because it only supports pass through 1080p. The only way to fix this on the TiVo to to disable 1080p and either 720p or 1080i in your TiVo display settings.
     
  2. kyderr

    kyderr New Member

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    OK. I read the whole thread. After calling TiVo Support, they mentioned they never heard of this problem. The Resolution changes are disruptive. I'm gonna to take the idea and set my resolution forced, but I hate to have to the TiVo to the resolution upconversion.

    TiVo Wants to replace the unit. Thanks to this forum. I have learned that will not help. (I did not think it would).
     
  3. chrispitude

    chrispitude New Member

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    Don't forget to power down and power up the unit after unplugging it for 30 seconds too...

    :rolleyes:
     
  4. flashedbios

    flashedbios New Member

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    my complaint is having to log in with the remote control instead of the "pairing process" with the code the old app had. typing out my entire email address even just once with a remote is exausting.
     
  5. mikeyts

    mikeyts Stream Warrior

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    That's something that I can heartily agree with, and it goes for every service-registered app on any STB. I can understand that it removes the necessity of having a PC available (or having a PC at all), but the token form of registration should be an option for those who do have a PC nearby (or, in my case, connected to the same television).
     
  6. HockeyFan

    HockeyFan Guest

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    Do you want a lollipop ?
     
  7. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    I like the fact that I can login using the email address. I hate having to get a pairing code. Entering my email address is usually much faster. Certainly faster on the TiVo using the TiVo Slide remote.
     
  8. Gerhard

    Gerhard New Member

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    Well,

    I spent the week home with a sick child, 18 mos, and he an I watched a ton of stuff.

    Unlike most people, I use an industrial firewall / network intrusion system, so I assumed that my crappy display of Netflix movies might be related to that.

    (Until recently, I couldn't even get the Tivo App to work at all since the Summer...)

    Well, my SONY Blue Player streams Netflix flawlessly... period.

    Tivo looks like crap, SONY BSP looks fantastic... I've got three of them, and ALL of them look great.

    Tivo has simply dropped the ball here...

    I have a 35 Mbit fiber connection, and I'm not using more than about 12Mbit to stream HD content. ALL of my TVs are 1080i or 1080p...

    This is the same on the Tivo Premiers (3 of those) and the one TivoHD.
     
  9. compnurd

    compnurd Active Member

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    You wouldnt use more than 12 anyway. Netflix Caps the streams
     
  10. Gerhard

    Gerhard New Member

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    The Sony BSP/BDP indicate an inital network surge of about 16Mbit when connecting to Netflix...

    Video quality is outstanding.

    Likewise, I just tested the Netflix app in one of the TV's... and it's also flawless.

    What bugs me is that if I didn't have a Logitec Harmony Remote, I'd have to manually start switching all of the inputs and crap to get things to work seemlessly.

    No an easy thing to do with a cranky, tired, 18 month old with pneumonia.

    (Once again, I want to thank Tivo for doing such a stellar job... -dripping with sarcasism-)

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    The house is wired using coax to 100BaseT bridges at all of the cable outlets, so I'm sure we are somewhere under the 12MByte/sec maximum through-put of Fast Ethernet, but no where near the speeds require for streaming HD.
     
  11. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    The Netflix quality can be outstanding on the TiVo too. It is outstanding(for streaming) in the setups I have. I have zero issues streaming Netflix on any of my Premieres. In a few seconds it goes to 1080P24 and it stays that way during the entire program that I watch.
    I am on the 150/65 tier on FiOS, but even when I was on the 35/35 tier it was just as solid.

    Even on my GFs, 1.2Mb/s DSL connection, Netflix is rock solid on the Premiere. it starts sstreaming and stays solid throughout the entire program. Although with a bandwidth of only 1.2Mb/s it is limited to playing SD. And for as low as the bandwidth is at her house, the quality is much better than I would have thought.
     
  12. mikeyts

    mikeyts Stream Warrior

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    With the new reduced bit rate encodes that they're rolling out, you should be able to get the highest quality HD stream on a quiescent 6 Mbps connection. (They replaced the old 3600 Kbps 720p "High/HD" encode with a 3000 Kbps one and the 4800 Kbps 1080p "X-High/HD" encode with a 3850 Kbps one, using some new tech which they bought from a company called eyeIO, which supposedly can produce H.264 video encodes of the same quality as older encoders in 20% to 50% less bandwidth. See this).
     
  13. morac

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    It's sad that after all this time, Netflix can still lock up my Premiere and cause it to reboot.

    Was watching a show and near the end, I paused it which caused playback to exit (why?). I couldn't resume so I played from the start and fast forwarded. About 75% to the end, it "bonked" and the picture froze and the box locked up. It rebooted about 30 seconds later.
     
  14. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    Lately I get V301 errors trying to start Netflix on Premieres which only a reboot of the TiVo resolves. Meanwhile the S3 OLED unit has no problems at all with Netflix during the same period...
     
  15. DJQuad

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    I doubt this will make you feel any better, but the YouTube app is equally as ****ty if not worse.

    TiVo "outsourced" both apps to the respective developers based on some weird licensing agreements, and now we're stuck with the same horrid apps that are on other platforms (Xbox, Wii, etc).

    Some don't blame TiVo because TiVo didn't develop the Netflix and YouTube apps. I entirely blame TiVo for accepting both of these crappy apps on their platform. TiVo is who I pay for service.
     
  16. chrispitude

    chrispitude New Member

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    This exact thing happened to us last week - pause, exit, and everything.
     
  17. mrizzo80

    mrizzo80 Well-Known Member

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    Overall I like the Netflix app a lot; but I continue to get instances of sub-menus not showing text (or only showing partial text) when it should. Pretty annoying. Generally happens after browsing around the interface. Anyone else getting this?
     
  18. TVCricket

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    I've gotten used to the app, but I have a question about internet usage. If I leave a movie or show paused for a long period of time, does the data continue to crank away? Reason I ask is because I checked my provider's new usage meter and it's telling me that I used 7GB one day. I don't play games on Steam, download movies off iTunes/Amazon, or any other major data hungry needs.
     
  19. morac

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    It doesn't use any data when paused. I don't pause for long periods though as I've found doing so makes the Premiere unstable.
     
  20. Jan 6, 2013 #140 of 227
    slacker9876

    slacker9876 New Member

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    Thank you all for this thread, I had called Netflix and TiVo then I came here and got the RIGHT answer.

    While I think it is a lame design flaw I am set to 1080i now and it is FINALLY working without issue. I should have known this is where the real experts reside :)

    Now I am off to find out why Hulu Plus indicates 0 seconds to resume and it is more like 15. Unless of course if it is the same thing.
     

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