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I hate, hate, HATE the updated Netflix app!!!

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by escrge, Aug 22, 2012.

  1. Sep 11, 2012 #21 of 227
    aaronwt

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    You can't select just 1080P by itself.. To select 1080P you have to also select at least one other resolution. The TiVo can only pass through 1080P24 content, it can't scale anything to 1080P. You would need to select one resolution that the TiVo can scale to, like 1080i, to help avoid most of the resolution change issues.
     
  2. Sep 12, 2012 #22 of 227
    lujan

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    Sorry, it is set to both 1080i and 1080p but it still goes to a blue screen every time I select an HD Netflix movie.
     
  3. Sep 12, 2012 #23 of 227
    rogmatic

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    I sometimes lose signal for all channels after using netflix, and I can't get them back without a restart. I have it set on 1080i resolution (the default for my TV), but is there any reason to think the lost signals are related to resolution changes? In other words, is it worth trying different settings?
     
  4. Sep 12, 2012 #24 of 227
    lujan

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    I've tried 1080i and 720p as well as all of the resolutions but there's no point in using the new application which added 1080p and DD 5.1 if you're not going to use it. In that case, I might as well continue to use the Panasonic BD player to watch HD Netflix movies.
     
  5. Sep 12, 2012 #25 of 227
    aaronwt

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    Try selecting one resolution. Which has to be something 1080i or lower.


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  6. Sep 14, 2012 #26 of 227
    Globular

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    I am comforted that I am not the only one with this frigging annoying problem. We have the blanking out problem. The TiVo has also rebooted a few times after becoming unresponsive during Netflix viewing. We even stooped so low as to borrowing DVDs (SD resolution, yeeesh!) of Breaking Bad from the library!

    Yuck-ola.
     
  7. Sep 14, 2012 #27 of 227
    lujan

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    I have tried that and it works but you no longer get the HD movies in 1080p and that's the whole reason I went back to the Netflix streaming subscription. I had stopped my subscription because Netflix was doing 720p and stereo forever and once it upgraded to 1080p and DD5.1 I started back. If I changed it to 1080i or lower, there's no point in watching the Netflix HD movies anymore, know what I mean?
     
  8. Sep 17, 2012 #28 of 227
    Globular

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    Netflix seems to be behaving the past few days. No drop-outs, or spontaneous reboots of the TiVo. Has something been fixed on the back-end?
     
  9. Sep 17, 2012 #29 of 227
    Lars_J

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    Do as others have said... Go in to the TiVo video output settings, and check 1080i only (disable 1080p).

    Doing that removed all the Netflix 'blackout' issues for me. I was seeing it consistently at predictable spots on many Netflix videos.

    As for the original posters complaint about the Netflix player adjusting quality in the middle of a stream. All Netflix players do that. It is working as designed. The particular issue with this Netflix player is when it switches between 1080p and other formats. (although the severity of the blackout might differ between different TVs, depending on how fast they switch)

    After this tweak I am MUCH happier now with this Netflix player compared to the previous one. Sure, it could be faster, but I would not go back to the other one if given a choice.
     
  10. Sep 17, 2012 #30 of 227
    Lars_J

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    Don't be ridiculous. At Netflix level streaming quality, the difference between 1080i and 1080p is minimal - if even noticeable. This is not Bluray quality.
     
  11. Sep 17, 2012 #31 of 227
    David Knowles

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    Used it early Saturday morning. The show started OK, but then the pause, ff, etc wouldn't work - it just continued to play. I had to pull the plug on the Tivo
     
  12. Sep 17, 2012 #32 of 227
    aaronwt

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    properly deinterlaced 1080i should look identical to 1080P. But I don't remember if you select only a 1080i output if it's playing the 720P stream and sscaling it up or playing the 1080P24 stream and interlacing for 1080i output.
     
  13. Sep 17, 2012 #33 of 227
    lujan

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    It is certainly noticeable on my 82" screen and leave the "ridiculous" comments at home. Why should it work correctly on my Panasonic DMP-BDT500 but not on the TiVo?
     
  14. Sep 17, 2012 #34 of 227
    mikeyts

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    I get the 1080p encode from Netflix with the output resolution set to 1080i-only. (I have tested bandwidth consumption and the TiVo will take the 1080p24 encode when the output is set to 720p only, downconverting it to 720p60 on output; of the devices that I have which stream Netflix--TiVo, PS3, Xbox, Roku 2, 2 Panasonic 3D BD players and a Sony BD player--it's the only which will take the 1080p encode when it can only output 720p, which might be considered a waste of bandwidth).

    1080p24 converted to 1080i30 for display is no great degradation of the picture.
     
  15. Sep 17, 2012 #35 of 227
    mikeyts

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    The 2012 Panasonic 3D BD players can do something which almost none of the other streamers can, which is output Internet VOD services as 24p. It is a very rare capability and I don't think it can be held against TiVo if they can't do it well.

    What would be nice is if the TiVo could convert other formats for output as 1080p24 but it can only pass it through so when something at another format comes through it has to change output formats, which most televisions cannot do smoothly (I'm not sure that any can). Inasmuch as adaptive bit rate streaming is the emerging standard it's a bit problematic, at least for support of services which offer 1080p video.
     
  16. Sep 17, 2012 #36 of 227
    mikeyts

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    There are definitely some bugs and deficiencies in the TiVo Premiere Netflix player not present in other devices with the same UI. For one thing all of my other players pause instantly (I tried Roku 2, PS3, Xbox and the Panasonic BDT220). All of my other players with this interface (PS3 and 3 BD players) return two sets of search results, one for matching titles and one for matching people names (actors, directors, etc). All of my other players with this UI go backward and forward by 4 thumbs at a time in a list (Instant Queue, Recently Watched, etc) with the REW and FF remote commands. I think that there are a couple of other things but they're not coming to mind right now.
     
  17. Sep 18, 2012 #37 of 227
    TVCricket

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    I hated it at first, but now the only things I wish they'd change is adding description when you press Info, ability to scroll up/down the main screen using Channel Up/Down, and adding the feature where the next episode of a tv show can begin playing without backing out of the current episode.
     
  18. Sep 19, 2012 #38 of 227
    lujan

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    Thanks, I'll try 1080i only and see what happens...
     
  19. Sep 19, 2012 #39 of 227
    RangerOne

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    I wish the replay button worked like in the old version.
     
  20. Sep 20, 2012 #40 of 227
    Atomic Buffalo

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    I want the old version back. It wasn't great, but it was better than the new app.

    I don't care why it's slow.
    I don't care who wrote it.
    I don't care that Netflix wants a consistent interface.

    I didn't buy Tivo for Netflix's interface or Netflix's features. I bought it for the Tivo interface. Give me what I paid for. If you're telling me this is what I paid for, I'll never buy a Tivo again.

    I gave up watching Netflix on Tivo. Nevermind the stupid faux-iPad navigation, the playback controls are hideous. I'd say they're the worst ever but I think the new YouTube Tivo app might be worse.

    I watch Netflix via my Sony TV now, because it works better. (BTW, it also does Amazon Prime.) This is not a good trend, Tivo. Why did I spend hundreds of dollars on you again?

    I want the Tivo Experience, not Tivo Excuses.
     

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