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I hate, hate, HATE the updated Netflix app!!!

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by escrge, Aug 22, 2012.

  1. Apr 7, 2013 #221 of 227
    Mike-Wolf

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    I wasn't aware there were 720p24 encodes let alone 720p encodes. Would you happen to know of any titles off the top of your head?
     
  2. Apr 7, 2013 #222 of 227
    Mike-Wolf

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    Man that's grounds for dismissal in my book to outright refuse a connection that isn't DSL. I would just outright refuse to go over there.
     
  3. Apr 7, 2013 #223 of 227
    mikeyts

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    All titles which are labelled "Available in HD" on Netflix's site and marked as HD in the browser of whatever player you're using have 720p encodes, one at 2350 Kbps and a second at 3000 Kbps. Almost all such titles have 1080p encodes, at 3850-, 4300- and 5800 Kbps; the latter two bit rates are referred to as "Super HD" and are only available if your ISP is set up for access to Netflix's private Open Connect Content Distribution Network (CDN). If they're available you'll see the "Super HD" logos on title descriptions in TiVo's player. Some small subset of titles are marked "Available in HD on your TV" on Netflix's website (as opposed to just "Available in HD"); those titles do not have 1080 res encodes and cannot be played in HD at all in the website player or the Win8 Netflix app. If you have Super HD access you can tell which these are because they'll be marked simply "HD" in your player's browser's descriptions with no "Super HD" logo. (The whole Super HD logo thing has been a little sketchy lately, showing up for some titles and not others which do have the Super HD encodes; hopefully they'll fix that). You can check whether your ISP has Open Connect access at this page; there'll be a line in big green letters beneath the picture of a television reading "Your Internet Provider is ready for Super HD!".

    The vast majority of Netflix video is encoded at 24p, being the framerate of the sources that they're given by their content providers. Some small amount of older US television is 30p (though lots of that is 24p) and British television is 25p. I've come across the rare oddball title like Hugo which is encoded at 30p though it must have been shot at 24p and has some awful judder in panning scenes because of it (just watch the long tracking shot at the very beginning). If you want to determine the framerate of a title, play it in the website player, left-click the video to give it keyboard focus and type CTRL-SHIFT-ALT-D to bring up a diagnostic overlay; read the frame rate from the "Video Frames (rendered/dropped)" line.

    Try playing "Example Short 23.976", a test clip with burned in display of bit-rate/resolution info.
     
  4. Apr 7, 2013 #224 of 227
    Mike-Wolf

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    On my TiVo Premiere I see the majority of the HD programming marked as "Super HD" even though I have Comcast and last I checked they aren't a Super HD partner. When I try playing that Example Short 23.976 video it plays for half a second and an error message appears on screen saying that it cannot connect to the Netflix service. I've not received this specific message on any other program but that one.
     
  5. Apr 8, 2013 #225 of 227
    mikeyts

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    Hmmm. Apparently TiVo is one of the devices which shows those logos even if your ISP isn't set up for you to get the encodes. I know that Roku 3 is one. It may be that Netflix has decided to show them in all those standard UI players whether you can get the encodes or not. Since my provider, Cox, is set up for Open Connect I can no longer test what happens if you're not.

    There was a bug with "Example Short" such that no one could play it if not using Open Connect servers. I know that it was briefly fixed; it may be broken again You could sign up for a free trial at Unblock-US.com; it'll let you sample Super HD and watch titles that are available on Netflix in other regions but not in the US.
     
  6. mikeyts

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    BTW, I recently discovered that that's not entirely true. If HDYTV titles are old enough, they'll be available in 1080 res on embedded devices. Newer ones (last couple of years at least) will be 720p-only.
     
  7. Mike-Wolf

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    I know that my PS3 and Windows 8 is dynamic regarding the SuperHD badge because when I was using an OpenConnect proxy they were there but when I went off the proxy they were gone.
     

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