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I guess I screwed up...

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by chrispitude, Nov 6, 2013.

  1. Nov 6, 2013 #1 of 25
    chrispitude

    chrispitude New Member

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    This evening, my Roamio Plus arrived to replace my Premiere. First, I called in a purchase of lifetime purchase. Then, I started a network connection to obtain schedule data and pick up the lifetime purchase. While that was running, I called RCN and within a few minutes, we had the Cablecard moved from the Premiere to the Roamio and paired.

    Alright, ready to go! Hmm, the main menu still says:

    How long is it going to take for the box to pick up the lifetime service? Now that the Cablecard is paired to the Roamio, I can't just put it back into the Premiere to pick up tonight's season pass recordings, and 8pm is less than an hour away...
     
  2. Nov 6, 2013 #2 of 25
    andyf

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    Houston,...
    It takes up to 24hrs for service to be activated. You shouldn't need service to up to 7 days to get guide info and record shows.
     
  3. Nov 6, 2013 #3 of 25
    chrispitude

    chrispitude New Member

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    So I'm seeing that it can take up to 24 hours for the lifetime service to be picked up. When I log into tivo.com, I see the entry for my Roamio, but it says:

    I guess I should have left the Roamio powered and running with a network connection without a Cablecard for a day until it picked up the service, while still using my Premiere with Cablecard to watch TV? This wasn't really the smooth transition I had hoped for. I suppose the fault is mine for not doing my homework on how long the activation would take.
     
  4. Nov 6, 2013 #4 of 25
    chrispitude

    chrispitude New Member

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    Hi Andy,

    Thanks for the response. Previous attempts to bring up the guide resulted in an error message, but I just tried it now and it worked! I guess it just needed some time to get its bearings.

    Whew, crisis averted!
     
  5. Nov 6, 2013 #5 of 25
    Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Yeah it can take a while after GS completes for the guide data to be indexed. Back in the old days when we had slow S1/S2 units GS wouldn't even let you use the TiVo until it had finished indexing the data and the indexing could take 6+ hours. So you'd get a new toy and wouldn't even be able to use it until the next day.
     
  6. Nov 6, 2013 #6 of 25
    chrispitude

    chrispitude New Member

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    Thanks Dan!

    The next hurdle is that when I attempt to access my Premiere from the Roamio to transfer its recordings, the Roamio says:

    Both devices are on wired connections. I'm using a green gigabit switch. I wonder if I haven't picked up the firmware with the fix... I guess I'm off to do more research.

    Sigh.
     
  7. Nov 6, 2013 #7 of 25
    bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    Same issue...

    Until your service has been activated you cannot use network connected functions like MRS or MRV.

    You can force connections and se if it picks up your service quicker - but you will most likely have to wait until tomorrow to use that functionality.
     
  8. Nov 6, 2013 #8 of 25
    chrispitude

    chrispitude New Member

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    I wish the error message told me it was related to the service/activation, and not just "a network problem"...

    Thanks bradleys.
     
  9. Nov 6, 2013 #9 of 25
    andyf

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    Houston,...
    Also, when your service is activated "all" TiVos in your house must perform a connection so they all know about each other before you will be able to connect to them.
     
  10. bmgoodman

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    I just went through these same things a few days ago. Despite all the poor error messages, after about 24 hours I could see both my other Tivos from the Roamio, and I've been transferring shows for over a day now. Everything is much better than that first day, when I'd rate the experience as UNKNOWN.*

    *Oops, sorry, I mean TERRIBLE.

    Now if they can iron out the other bugs, I think I'll be fine.
     
  11. chrispitude

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    Even though my service is still shown as "pending activation" on the TiVo webpage, I am now able to transfer season passes and shows to the Roamio. Things are definitely much less frustrating now, but I still agree with your rating of UNKNOWN for that first day of setup...

    The batch transfer of season passes was great! The one-by-one transfer of shows, not so much. I seem to recall reading about using some kind of utility to do a batch transfer. Off to do some more forum-searching!

    We're getting there...
     
  12. chrispitude

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    When I attempted to copy all 124 season passes over using the online season pass manager, the copy terminated with

    I was able to copy them over in smaller batches, but it randomized the season pass order within each batch.

    I ended up resorting to transferring them one at a time, starting at the top, which preserved the order.

    Sigh.
     
  13. Time_Lord

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    I too couldn't copy them all over at one time, I did them about 10 or so at a time.
     
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    It irritates me that it doesn't preserve the order within each batch, although I suppose with six tuners, it doesn't matter.

    In the pop-up dialog that asks to confirm channels, sometimes some of the shows in the batch are missing even though there are multiple channel choices. Also, the same channel randomly appears with or without a name and description.

    I suppose none of this really surprises me.
     
  15. chrispitude

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    I got to about 60 season passes copied, and the copies stopped working reliably. Now I consistently get the "something did not work right" error, even trying to copy them one at a time. Sometimes, logging back into the season pass manager page makes it work again, sometimes it does not.

    Still trying to slog through this, although I'm rapidly getting to the point where doing them manually one-by-one will be faster.
     
  16. andyf

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    Houston,...
    Probably want to give it an hour or so while your TiVo digests all the stuff you've already done.
     
  17. chrispitude

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    I'm up to 75 season passes, and after half an hour of trying to get copies to work, I'm giving up. You win again, TiVo. (Or is that "I lose again"?)
     
  18. Dan203

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    You should try kmttg...

    http://sourceforge.net/projects/kmttg/

    It can copy SPs that are not currently in the guide and retain their proper order. Works WAY better then TiVo.com and it's free.
     
  19. chrispitude

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    Man, I can't win. I installed kmttg1p0. It didn't auto-detect my TiVos, but I got around that by entering their IP addresses. After doing that, I see a main tab for each of them and each tab displays the list of recordings on that TiVo, but when I go to the Remote administration tab, the drop-down list of TiVos is empty. I found on the forums that you need to enter your TiVo.com user name and password into the configuration window. I did that, exited out, and now kmttg1p0 hangs whenever I run it (no GUI pops up, process hangs). If I edit the config file to make my password incorrect, the GUI starts. It doesn't like something about trying to log in to my account.

    I'm off to debug...

    Edit: Progress! It looks like this was because I was running kmttg1p0i on a virtual Windows 7 machine on a linux box; something about the virtual machine's NAT or the linux firewall must be interfering. Oddly, kmttg0p8r worked fine back in the day, but clearly the virtual machine is giving me grief now.
     
  20. chrispitude

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    Wow, kmttg made the transfer of 140 season passes TRIVIALLY easy! Dan, thank you so much for the heads-up! I am mad that I wasted so much time with TiVo's own webpage this morning.

    Now I'm off to figure out how to transfer my shows without losing the metadata...

    Edit: Based on this thread, I think I'm just going to bite the bullet and do TiVo-to-TiVo transfers.
     

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