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HR20 in August

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by ebonovic, Jul 27, 2006.

  1. ebonovic

    ebonovic has gone his way...

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    I am posting this in one thread as an response to all the other threads that where out over the last couple days (regarding delays)..

    http://www.tvweek.com/page.cms?pageId=202

    This is the formal DirecTV response to the Forbes and Swani articles.

    The HR20 is to be release in August... LA will be the first market to get it.

    The discussion can be continued over at www.dbstalk.com
     
  2. AbMagFab

    AbMagFab What happened, TiVo?

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    That's a pilot, not a release.

    By that same logic, the HD Tivo 6.3 software has been released.

    This looks like major spin to me.

    "Released" is when I can order it on-line or pick it up from Best Buy.
     
  3. ebonovic

    ebonovic has gone his way...

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    Another poster on another forum posted this...

    [partial quote]

    It is no different then when they released the AT9 dish and the H20 in Detroit first...
    So does that not count as a "release" ?

    [/partial quote]

    I guess FIOS isn't released then, as I can't call up an order it, or pick it up from Best Buy.
    I mean it is only available in a limited area... because they are "rolling it out"

    Or is MPEG-4 Locals not released... because it is only available in limited areas...
     
  4. pecocus

    pecocus New Member

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    If I were D*, I'd roll out the HR20's in roughly the same order as I was deploying (or had deployed) MPEG 4 cities. After all, those are the DVR owners who had been waiting the longest for the ability to get the MPEG 4 feeds. Wasn't LA one of the first cities to get MPEG 4 locals?
     
  5. jm_sullivan

    jm_sullivan Preorder #54

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    Isn't LA on MPEG-2 still as the west coast feed? this sounds like a plausible decision that a CEO would make. I believe this one.
     
  6. ebonovic

    ebonovic has gone his way...

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    LA has the MPEG-4 as well.
     
  7. srt

    srt New Member

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    paticence grasshoppers. I know nothing, yet I know that last week I received an envelope from D* that included a channel line-up AND a 1/3 sheet note that clearly said " Congratulations. You now have a new DIRECT'TV DVR...."
    copy avaliable but I do not know how to post a pic here.
    I live in nor*cal, but have LA feed for hd because there is no hd broadcast anywhere near here. I believe, with some amount of certainity, that sometime in the future I will get a new dish and box to replace or 3lnb and hr10-250.
    Sometime. I also believe the above was packaged and mailed a little early, intentionally? Typical D* left hand/right hand fashion? Who knows, does it really matter?
     
  8. kbcrowe

    kbcrowe New Member

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    Yes, but the point is they are the one city with HD locals besides NY that doesn't need an MPEG-4 DVR.
    GG D*
     
  9. ebonovic

    ebonovic has gone his way...

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    Well yes... (Regarding LA having both)

    LA is also where they have one of there larger offices
     
  10. AbMagFab

    AbMagFab What happened, TiVo?

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    You can't be serious? FiOS and MPEG-4 Locals are not consumer electronic devices. You'd never call FiOS "released" or MPEG-4 locals "released". They're services.

    You can't call a product "released" that is intended to be purchased anywhere, if you can only get it in one place.

    That's a pilot, plain and simple. And it's painfully obvious DirecTV is getting bashed by everyone, and this is damage control.
     
  11. ebonovic

    ebonovic has gone his way...

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    So why are services except from "release" status, when it is only available in limited markets? As service is a product that you purchase... is it not? So how about other technology (such as cell phones) that are only available in specific markets... are they not released?

    So why shouldn't they release it to just one market... to make sure their infrustructur is set, the installers are trained, and they work out all the kinks of the logistics of rolling out such a product. That is what they did for the H20 and the AT9 dish (aka.. they started in Detriot, and then moved on). And I don't think we heard "this is damage control", or Detroit is just an elaborate Beta testing city... why is the HR20 any different? They said Q3... and Q3 it is...

    "Damage Control"... of course it is damage control... Control of the damage from articles over the last two days, based on outdated information... It was answer to those questions and comments... Heck I bet your surprised that they even came out with a statement this fast....

    Define "release" however you want....
    But the bottom line is the HR20 will be in the hands of paying customers comes August 2006.
     
  12. TonyD79

    TonyD79 Well-Known Member

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    I'd call it a phased release.

    Pilots are usually intended to prove concept and to limit usage. After a pilot, you usually retrench and adjust. That doesn't sound like that here. It sounds like the same way they release software for TiVos. Select markets and a rolling release.

    They should follow the MPEG4 pattern and try to catch up to it so they are releasing the new DVRs at the same time they turn MPEG4 on in an area. Afterall, why release the new DVR where MPEG4 isn't available yet? That would be stupid.
     
  13. tazzmission

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    AbMagFab, please shut up. You anger me with your negative responses to Earl's posts. What is your deal anyway???
     
  14. drew2k

    drew2k Drew != Drawn

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    Wow ... I can just see the debate now: Someday soon, one lucky TCF poster will report getting 6.3 downloaded and installed, indicating it has been released. As we all know, upgrades are rolled out gradually, so I'm sure some other TCF poster will challenge that first report of the 6.3 rollout claiming it's not "released' yet, as it's a product that's not yet available everywhere. Sheesh.
     
  15. aztivo

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    I too have been wondering what the deal is between these two... but on this one I will agree with AbMagFab...this shouldnt be considered a "release" but more of a "role out"
     
  16. SecureTalk

    SecureTalk New Member

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    Ok, so now that the DirecTV HD DVR roll out [in one form or another] is starting in August. Is there any firm information of the pricing? Is it being given free to 10-250 owners, $99 or one of the many many claims of cost to the end customers made by folks here?

    I am in the Philly, PA market, but not in range of OTA signals, so my only option to get HD locals is via satellite or cable (no OTA).


    Thanks for any light anyone can shed on pricing.
     
  17. ebonovic

    ebonovic has gone his way...

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    No pricing information has been released for the unit.

    Roll-out, phased release, release (apply your own tern here)... at the end of the day... the HR20 will be in the hands of customers.
     
  18. aztivo

    aztivo Member

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    isnt this somthing that should actually be talked about on the other site? :)
    Damn you and your D* cheerleading earl you just come here to get certian people frustrated dont you... you can admit it we are all friends here... Long live the S3 Tivo
     
  19. ebonovic

    ebonovic has gone his way...

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    Yes... but with at least 3 other threads (here at TCF)... talking about the delays of the new dvr.

    And mentions of it in a few others... I wanted to at least post the updated information here.

    I have no issue with taking it over to www.dbstalk.com
    We actually already have a discussion thread going there as well:

    http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=61157
     
  20. ebonovic

    ebonovic has gone his way...

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    I wish the S3 no ill-will... I do hope it works the way it is supposed.
    TiVo, Inc... paved the ways for DVRs...

    I have purchased probably two dozen DTivos and TiVos amongst my family over the last 5 years (seriously, no joke... and that doesn't include all the people I TiVangolized over the last 5 years). I payed several hundred for my GXCEBOTs, and was #5 from Value Electronics for my $899 HR10-250...

    TiVo is a great product... never said it wasn't...
    I do hope that the CableCard issue get's resolved (with TWC), and Comcast TiVo works out well...


    I have no stock or financial connects to DirecTV...
    I primarily stay with DirecTV because Comcast is my only other option, except pure ota.
     

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