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How will Xbox One work with Roamio?

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by barrett14, Nov 17, 2013.

  1. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    The feature works perfectly fine with my Roamio Basic. The XBOne decodes the DD multi-channel audio and outputs it in multi-channel PCM. What MS need to fix is the output. Right now the output is fixed, not dynamic like it should be. So if you have the XBOne set for 7.1 output, and 5.1 content from an app or from the HDMI in is output in a 7.1 wrapper with two channels dead. So no post processing can be applied. With stereo content it's even worse since all channels are dead except for the FL and FR channels. Without manually changing the output channels to match the input channels, it's like watching TV was decades ago. When you only had stereo like in the 80's or a 5.1 system like in the 90's.

    To have the proper output, the XBOne needs to dynamically change the number of output channels to match the number of input channels. But even the PS3 and 360 never got this right all the time. They still had issues with some apps doing the same thing, while other apps dynamically changed the output like it's supposed to be.
     
  2. xbr23

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    no matter what audio output i have tried, all i have is L/R stereo. No center, sub or rear speakers.

    the XB defaulted to 7.1 during setup. during setup, it went through all my channels correctly.

    my setup, Roamio Pro, HDMI to XB, HDMI to Receiver (Pioneer Elite SC-07), HDMI to TV.

    Receiver was working fine with just the Roamio. i have played with all the audio options on the XB but no matter what, all i have is L/R stereo....
     
  3. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    I had the same issue. During setup I had selected the beta surround option but I was only getting stereo pcm from my TiVo. I could always hear the TiVo sounds which would not be the case if it was sending Dolby Digital. So when I checked the settings again the other day I saw where the beta surround option was unchecked. Even though I specifically checked it during setup. So once I checked it again I started getting the 2.0 and .5.1 DD that is normal from all the FiOs channels. The XBOne decodes the DD and sends it out as pcm and I don't hear any TiVo sounds while it is playing content. Which is how it is supposed to be when the TiVo sends DD.
     
  4. xbr23

    xbr23 New Member

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    got it. turned on the Beta sound and got my speakers back. your answer also answered the question as to why i was hearing the tivo sounds while watching TV.
     
  5. barrett14

    barrett14 New Member

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    Right now I have all of my devices going into my receiver, and then one HDMI cable going from my receiver to my TV. How will I integrate the XBO into this? If I exported the TV signal from the receiver, into the XBO, and then into the TV... that would mean that my PS3 would also go through the XBO? That doesn't make sense?
     
  6. b_scott

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    Set it to 5.1 PCM on the X1
     
  7. xbr23

    xbr23 New Member

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    lost my HDMI connection to the Tivo via Xbone. Xbone has been working fine but last night when i declared "Xbox On" the TV feed was timing out. Xbone was not seeing the TV channels. Black screen only. tried unplugging HDMI's and replugging. tried reboot's, finally gave up and took the Xbone out of the HDMI equation.

    there was already a handshake issue, when Xbone would start up, the video feed would flicker for a second, then go to black, wait, wait, wait, bam! TV video feed would start working.

    anybody else having HDMI issues with Xbone?? i have searched on the xbox forums and no one has commented.
     
  8. Jonathan_S

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    I think Microsoft's idea is that the Xbox One would sit between your cable box and the receiver. So the PS3 would still be PS3->Receiver->TV, but the cable (or sat) would be cable box->Xbox One->Receiver->TV.

    But at this point, I'm seriously considering not using the Xbox One's HDMI passthrough when I get one. Just have it on it's one seperate receiver input (like the 360 was) and ignore the potential TV integration. <shrug>
     
  9. b_scott

    b_scott TiVo Fan

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    yes, that's how it works. It works very well for live tv - but for any other functions other than ffwd/rwd/stop/play/etc for a recording that's already playing, you need the remote.

    the large benefit is the fast switching to games or other apps, and back to TV. Or snapping TV in the window next to your game so you can say listen to your daily talk show while playing. Or you can watch TV but still get notifications that your friend wants you to play a game, on your screen.
     
  10. xbr23

    xbr23 New Member

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    Xbox update resolved my issues. fyi.
     
  11. vurbano

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    I will leave my TV watching to tivo not a game console :rolleyes:
     
  12. b_scott

    b_scott TiVo Fan

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    you can do both :p I promise you if you are in TV mode and don't use voice commands, you won't notice a difference.
     
  13. aaronwt

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    You can also do a combination of voice commands and remote controls. It works perfectly fine when I've used it with my Roamio Basic.
    The only issue is that the XBOne uses remote code zero. So if there are other TiVos in the room it will also be sending commands to those TiVos.
     
  14. Rkkeller

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    You can really do a lot with your voice, gestures or Xbox One controller, even 30 second skip thru recordings. The guide once you set it up how you want, and it does take a little time, works great.

    About the only time I use my Roamio remote is to setup a SP or start a show to watch.

    The Xbox One is not meant only as a "video game machine", its is meant as a total entertainment hub. You can snap dual windows and skype and watch TV, or do something else and snap a web browser, and so on. Its integrated with the NFL, fantasy football and a lot more if you like football. Follow your friends, activity, message, trade game clips. Bluray/CD player, apps and of course games.

    It has only been out 3 weeks so a lot more is coming. I find myself using mine a lot more for non gaming things than I do playing games, it can do so much.

    I walk into my living room and Kinect recognizes me and signs me in automatically, I say "Xbox On" and it turns everything you want on, even your stereo. Then when watching TV I might get a message from a friend and a notification pops up, then I can "snap activity" and a small window opens on the side with all my friends activity and what they are doing now so I can see if I want to join a game or something.

    You should hook it up as intended is what I am getting at or a lot of fun features will not work like they planned.
     
  15. barrett14

    barrett14 New Member

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    I am having issues controlling my Tivo using the xbox voice commands. I tell it to change the channel and nothing happens. What am I doing wrong?

    It was misleading during the set up because it wanted to send a "mute" command to my TV... but in reality it needed to send the Mute command to my receiver. I wasn't sure how to sort that out.
     
  16. NJChris

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    In the setup I think you tell it what device you use for audio. I have it set to my receiver and it mutes that fine.

    How are you telling it to change the channel? I end up using the roamio remote mostly but I can say "Xbox watch CBS" and it will change to that. I don't think you can tell it a channel number (at least that didn't work for me)

    I do like that the shoulder buttons on the controller do the 30-sec skip forward and 7 second back... or you can tell "xbox skip forward" to do that.
     
  17. barrett14

    barrett14 New Member

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    I think I got it figured out. Now it is just a matter of getting my Harmony remote to live happily with this new change. Since the Xbox and Tivo are integrated now, it is hard to tell a universal remote how to work.
     
  18. b_scott

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    just set it up as Xbox One TV - make it use the Tivo and assign all the Tivo buttons to the hard ones.
     
  19. barrett14

    barrett14 New Member

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    What did you guys set your audio output as for the Xbox one? My receiver was decoding everything as PCM before the xbox, but now it seems like DTS sounds the best which is already compressed...
     
  20. aaronwt

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    If I watch content from my Roamio BAsic through my XBOne, I set the XBOne output to either 5.1 pcm or 2.0 pcm. Depending on whether the content I'm watching is in 5.1 or 2.0. Quality wise that sounds the same as using DTS output to me. But I think the DTS output is a little louder than the PCM output if I remember correctly. Plus, unless something has chnaged, DTS output is always in 5.1. SO if 2.0 content is eing watched, then it will be output with several dead channels. So only audio will be coming from the FL/FR channels. Which for me is like it was in the mid and late 80's watching TV. Before I got my first surround processor in 1991.
     

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