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How to activate eSATA port on TiVo Series 3

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by spike2k5, May 4, 2007.

  1. May 6, 2007 #81 of 259
    spike2k5

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    It really doesn't matter who discovered it first. If you discovered it first, I give you full credit. I discovered it recently working on updated mfstools. (Mfslive.org)

    I posted on the other forum as well while searching if anyone has annouced it already but didn't see it so posted there as well to let their folks know it's out there.

    There are 3 ways that I know of "kickstart 62" being the easiest way.
    More details to follow when ready.
     
  2. May 6, 2007 #82 of 259
    Cormode

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    This was an analogy not a description.

    What I meant was: Just like Y2K is easy to identify WHY the 1TB exists and just like Y2K creating a fix is a LOT of work that only Tivo Inc. programmers can do.
     
  3. May 6, 2007 #83 of 259
    Carsten

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    Dont get me wrong. For me your the one that found it because you announced it hehehe.
     
  4. May 6, 2007 #84 of 259
    Adam1115

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    Way more, right this second, but there are only a handful of HD channels other than OTA.

    Once the cable channels start going HD, 120 hours is certainly NOT a lot of hours. I have a couple hundred hours of SD on my TiVo now.
     
  5. May 6, 2007 #85 of 259
    rodalpho

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    I dunno, I had a S1 with a 120GB drive from 2000-2006, recording on high or medium quality depending on the show, and I never had space issues. I would have entire seasons of shows like 24 on my TiVo and watch them at my leisure. Just seems like it isn't that much of an issue. Not that options are bad; certainly prices will come down and I can envision 2TB drives costing $300 in 2009, but it just isn't a major concern at the moment.
     
  6. May 6, 2007 #86 of 259
    clark_kent

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    hello to all, i wanted to try this out but i can't plug my sata cable into the tivo.**is there a difference in an "external" vs "internal" sata connector?**i only have "internal" sata cables on hand.**thanks.
     
  7. May 6, 2007 #87 of 259
    rodalpho

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    Yes, they are different physical plugs but are electrically identical. You can get a converter cable if you need one for $10 or so.
     
  8. May 6, 2007 #88 of 259
    jstevenson

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    Just to update my situation, I swapped out for one of the Seagate Free Agent Pros today and it is not working with my TiVo either. Tried unplugging it, firing up the hard drive, plugging the TiVo back in, got to the point where I put 62 in and then it reboots from scratch and I can either do the pause+62 procedure again (causing another reboot) or I can let it finish in which case the drive doesn't work.

    So either my eSATA port on my Tivo doesn't work, or there is some other issue.

    Running 8.3 and have never replaced the internal drive.
     
  9. May 6, 2007 #89 of 259
    lcann44

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    When I first tried it it didn't work for me. Actually I had my wife hold the remote on pause and she punched in the code when the red light came on. I know she did it correctly, but I decided to do it myself and it worked. Not just once, twice since I decided to get a drive with more space. I actually unmarried it, didn't lose programming and installed the new drive a Seagate 500gb internal in a external enclosure. Worked just fine.

    So I would guess that if you are following directions, there may indeed be a problem with your eSATA port.
     
  10. May 6, 2007 #90 of 259
    rainwater

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    Why do you need high performance for a Tivo drive used to store recordings. The S2 works just fine on a 5400 RPM ide drive. I don't see why the S3 would be any different with regards to low performance requirements for the external SATA drive.
     
  11. May 6, 2007 #91 of 259
    sfhub

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    This is not a comment on whether the performance of a particular enclosure or drive is sufficient, just an observation of what the units are doing.

    TiVo S3 HD recordings are typically 8GB/hr. TiVo S2 SD recordings are typically 1GB/hr. TiVo S3 is dual tuner. If you record 2 HD shows and playback 1 HD show, you need to write 16GB/hr and simultaneously read 8GB/hr.

    All this may be well within the capabilities of a 5400rpm IDE (or not), but clearly the S3 is doing more than an S2 so I don't think it makes sense to use the lesser to justify the greater.

    Instead you should use the actual requirements of an S3 and compare to the performance capabilities of the drive and enclosure combo.
     
  12. May 7, 2007 #92 of 259
    RickyMac

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    I just connected a Seagate FreeAgent Pro, 500 Gig, External, Powered Drive, (5 year limited warranty). I followed the instructions at the beginning of this thread and it worked!!

    My system now reads 98 HD and 927 SD - WOW.

    It's nice to see that TIVO does update their products. Now all we need is to be able to transfer our recordings like our S2s.

    Note: Sam's has this drive for $177 w/o the eSATA cable.

    Have A Great Day....Rick
     
  13. May 7, 2007 #93 of 259
    jfh3

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    Does the power switch status stay in the on position after it loses power?
     
  14. May 7, 2007 #94 of 259
    gteague

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    reporting success with the nexstar3 and a maxline diamond 500gb drive. unmodified s3 running v8.3x. 98h-hd/927h-sd. what fun!

    btw, i found that you don't need to unplug the tivo. just do a menu reset and be quick on the pause button. i missed putting in the '62' fast enough the first time and had to restart 3 times to finally get it to work.

    with my setup--room temp and a/v cabinet--i just hope that lack of a fan doesn't cook the drive. i will be monitoring it closely. and i'm glad i got an enclosure with such a bright activity light so i can tell when i/o is taking place.

    /guy
     
  15. May 8, 2007 #95 of 259
    JerryL

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    When you add the esata drive and use kickstart 62 to reboot, do you lose any programs on the original tivo drive that were recorded earlier?
     
  16. May 8, 2007 #96 of 259
    spike2k5

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    No
     
  17. May 8, 2007 #97 of 259
    Fofer

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    I am wondering the same about the procedure for adding an eSATA drive to an already upgraded S3 (whose details will hopefully/eventually emerge, fingers crossed.)
     
  18. May 8, 2007 #98 of 259
    spike2k5

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    You won't loose recordings on the internal drive either, using method #2.
    Built-in divorce seems to divorce only eSATA drive as well so your expand capacity on interal drive is kept.
     
  19. May 8, 2007 #99 of 259
    expmag

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    I see where a method #2 is mentioned, but I do not see how to add the eSata drive if the internal drive has already been upgraded. I have an eSata that was used when I had a comcast dvr. If this is not possible, can I put back the original series 3 drive and then add the external eSata drive?
     
  20. May 8, 2007 #100 of 259
    spike2k5

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    Yes you can.
    Currently, method 2 is being beta tested.
    If you don't mind loosing your recordings on your expanded drive, you can put back your original internal drive and add an eSATA drive.
     

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