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How Poll: How Many Streams will TiVo Sell in the six months?

Discussion in 'TiVo Stream' started by sbiller, Sep 6, 2012.

How many TiVo Streams will TiVo Sell in the Next Six Months

Poll closed Sep 15, 2012.
  1. < 5,000

    44.6%
  2. 5,000 to 10,000

    17.6%
  3. 10,000 to 15,000

    12.2%
  4. > 15,000

    25.7%
  1. innocentfreak

    innocentfreak Active Member

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    Florida
    I don't care how pretty it looks if it is only 9.6". I would rather watch on a 27" CRT at that point. Just like I would rather watch on the 58" Plasma over the 50" Plasma.
     
  2. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Sometime it's more convenient to use an iPad. Like in my case my wife wont allow me to put a full size TV in the bedroom because it's too loud and bright. But she's fine with me using my iPad on my night stand. In that case it's only like a foot from my face so the video quality looks just fine. It's also nice to watch a movie while you're on a plane or in a hotel room with a ****ty CRT TV.

    Dan
     
  3. innocentfreak

    innocentfreak Active Member

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    Aug 25, 2001
    Florida
    On a plane and traveling I think it makes perfect sense.

    I just can't see me watching video on the iPad when I have a choice of a TV in front of me. Of course I don't have a wife so I didn't have any objections to looking at a 50" for my bedroom.

    I assume it looks great and would have no problems with the quality, but I just couldn't get into watching something on that small of a screen. I never watch video on my phone either though. If anything I would use it for background noise like playing a concert or standup.
     
  4. Teeps

    Teeps Active Member

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    Torrance,Cal...
    You're right; and unless I win or inherit one probably never will.
    I'll take your word that a 9.6" screen can appear "glorious."

    It's amazing how marketing gets into peoples' minds.
     
  5. smbaker

    smbaker Well-Known Member

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    Whether or not a screen looks good is a separate issue from the size of the screen.

    Of course, I don't want to do the majority of my TV viewing on a 9.6" screen when I have a 55" screen in the other room. But, for those times I want to use a small screen, it's a hell of a good picture. I'm working right now, and am much happier watching my iPad than a 9.6" PIP window on my ultrasharp monitor. Tivo Stream is working for me as expected.
     
  6. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Will also be good for watching TV in the kitchen while cooking. I don't cook much, but for a few special occasions I bake and it can take hours. Normally I blare the TV in the other room for some background noise, but now I can just put my iPad on the counter somewhere and actually watch it. (or at least glace at it every once in a while)

    Dan
     
  7. d_anders

    d_anders Sr Legacy Member

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    Oct 12, 2000
    Twin Cities...
    You haven't discovered the ease and convenience of using a tablet yet for reading, and consuming content.

    There are a lot of people that only have laptops (and when it comes time to refresh many now are opting to buy a tablet (ios or Android)), and the exercise is the same for consuming content, and the personal ease and experience on a tablet is even easier.

    When you are sitting on a chair and chair, and it's only 1-2 feet from you, video on an Ipad is very good. I've got an Ipad2 and it's fine, but I have seen ipad3 's screen in action and it is an amazing screen for a tablet.

    It's also been a life saver for travel (car and air travel) with two children, and now with Tivo Stream it is another world. Just before a trip, I would need to make it 2 hour excercise to pull video through Tivo Desktop, have it convert for ipad, and then finally download it to the Ipad. Now it's effortless.

    Marketing doesn't convince people like me of a tablet's utility, experience does.
     
  8. NYHeel

    NYHeel Active Member

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    Screen size is irrelevant by itself. Only screen size and distance from your eyes together is relevant. That 9.6" screen at about 1' from your eyes likely looks much "bigger" than a 27" tv that is 10' away from your eyes. I'd rather watch a 50" tv at 8' than a 58" one at 16'.
     
  9. innocentfreak

    innocentfreak Active Member

    8,950
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    Aug 25, 2001
    Florida
    Not for me it isn't. I don't find the iPad immersive at all. It doesn't matter where I hold it. I don't find watching video that way enjoyable.
     
  10. sbiller

    sbiller Active Member

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    May 10, 2002
    Tampa, FL
    I like streaming live TV (CNBC) to my iPad as a 3rd screen TV when I'm working at my desk.

    [​IMG]

    I do wish I had a way to tell it to keep going automatically at the end of a program slot.
     
  11. innocentfreak

    innocentfreak Active Member

    8,950
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    Aug 25, 2001
    Florida
    I just use my second monitor for video, not to mention the TV a few feet away.
     
  12. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Obviously the Stream is not a perfect fit for everyone. But there are legitimate uses for it and discounting them because they don't apply to you is sort of annoying.

    Dan
     
  13. NotVeryWitty

    NotVeryWitty Too Big to Fail

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    More than sort of...
     
  14. Austin Bike

    Austin Bike New Member

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    I have to disagree. This summer we took a trip to Europe and I loaded both iPads with lots of content for the trip. While kmttg was great and the commercial skip was awesome, I spent way too much time selecting shows, having my pc tied up for days (8 core state of the art system) and then having to mess with iTunes to get it on the iPad. Last night I picked up my iPad, went down the menu and selected "download". I was watching the daily show in high def in less than 10 minutes. As someone who flys 150k+ miles a year, this is the best accessory EVER.

    Kmttg might be "better" but stream is a product for the masses.
     
  15. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    When the first iPod added video support, back when we were still using S2 TiVos, this is something I suggested to TiVo. (side loading only, not streaming) Back then the hardware to accomplish it was probably prohibitively expensive, but directly downloading shows from TiVo to a portable device has been a dream of mine for a long time. I'm happy to see it finally come true.

    Dan
     
  16. innocentfreak

    innocentfreak Active Member

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    If you could use KMTTG with the Stream you wouldn't be tying up your PC all day since you wouldn't need to transcode. Also with KMTTG no need to manually select shows since you could setup autotransfers for the series you want to be available.

    Depending on what you use to play video you could just use Diskaid to copy the videos over to the app. Of course right now you can't do that with the TiVo app.
     
  17. Austin Bike

    Austin Bike New Member

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    But the reality is that people want stuff that just works. Simply. With the same interface.

    I have been in tech for 20+ years and am constantly barraged with the "why do people spend so much for X when you could do it all by combining a, b and c?"

    Desktop Linux is a great example.

    Non-apple tablets.

    People don't want to pay more for windows, but it's what everyone uses.

    People would love to pay less for a tablet, but apple has all the best apps and people know the interface.

    I am in the same camp. I don't want to take the call at 3am in hong kong when my wife can't get something to print.

    That is why I have TiVo. And for $130, stream is a better solution for people like me. Most civilians can't get their head around having a pc in the middle of all of this. They have shows on their TiVo and they want to watch them on their iPad. This is the simplest way. Stream live or 10 minutes to download is way easier than kmttg.

    A friend wanted to see Anthony bourdon in Austin. Kmttg took hours to turn that into something he could see. Instead in a few minutes I could drop it on my iPad and walk over to his house.
     
  18. en sabur nur

    en sabur nur Member

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    It's been a dream of mine for a long time too. I just brought home the last TiVo Premiere 4 from Best Buy. Next purchase: TiVo Stream.
     
  19. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    I'd still like to see the Stream supported on the PC. That way I could download files to my PC already transcoded, pop out the commercials in VideoReDo and then upload to my iPad. That would save space on my iPad and make it so I didn't have to worry about FFing through the commercials. Plus it creates a demand for VideoReDo which keeps me employed. :)

    Another cool thing would be if TiVo could utilize the Stream for TiVo to TiVo transfers to save space. Or even have the TiVo stream the recoded video back to itself to reduce the file size of a recording. TiVos can play H.264 video just fine and the file size is significantly smaller then the source MPEG-2 files so it could free up some space if you were running low.

    Dan
     
  20. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    If you're switching from multiple two tuner units you're going to love the Premiere 4. Not having to manage two separate To Do Lists it fantastic.

    Dan
     

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