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How much does a cablecard cost the cable co?

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by cherrytree, Dec 4, 2013.

  1. modnar

    modnar Active Member

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    My cable company charges $70 for each CableCard (no option to rent), and they say they are just passing on the expense.
     
  2. JosephB

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    That doesn't seem like it meets the FCC regulations. You don't have to buy outright a set top box (or a cable card for a rented set top box) so you shouldn't have to buy your cable card up front, though at some cable company rental rates $70 once is not a bad deal. Do they swap it for you for free if it is bad or goes bad?
     
  3. cherrytree

    cherrytree New Member

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    Per the comments of JosephB and AdamJ (your names sound like rappers :)), it sounds like a CC costs $40-50. Considering my Series 3 got six+ years of use, I'm thinking I'll use my Roamio Plus for around 5 years. So Verizon will get $300 from me (assuming it doesn't raise the $5/mo price) for a $40-50 piece of equipment. Well played Verizon.

    To Verizon's credit, though, it doesn't charge a monthly ONT fee or wireless router fee. While Comcast doesn't charge for the first CC, Comcast charges me $7/mo for an EMTA.
     
  4. rainwater

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    I don't think the FCC regulations on cablecards apply to regional providers. And in most cases, it is much cheaper in the long run with these smaller carriers since they aren't trying to make money off cablecard rentals.
     
  5. headless chicken

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    But what good are those CC when the service provider has to verify the SN and authenticity of the card in order for your channels to come through?
     
  6. siratfus

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    It has very limited uses for people who happen to only need those limited uses. A cable card without activation from your cable company can still tune some basic/local channels.
     
  7. JosephB

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    But a cable card from an outside cable company isn't going to work. It's not going to download any channel maps or anything.
     
  8. lessd

    lessd Active Member

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    Only if it is from the same cable co that issued the card
     
  9. modnar

    modnar Active Member

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    Nope, they don't swap it for free unless it is DOA or goes bad almost immediately.

    I looked at the regulations, and, as I read it, there is an option for them to sell the hardware at a reasonable cost. I'd much rather pay a couple dollars a month.
     
  10. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    I'd rather pay the $70. Charter only charges $2/mo for the cards, but they could raise the price at any time. At $2/mo the payback is 3 years but at $5/mo, like FIOS charges, payback is just over a year. These things have no moving parts so they're unlikely to fail over time. They'll either work or they wont from the gate, and after that you'll really never have to worry about them. $70 for life isn't a bad deal at all.

    This is kind of like the cable modem. I was paying $5-7/mo to rent a cable modem for years. (they raised it somewhere along the line, didn't notice exactly when) Then I realized that I could buy my own for about $80. I've had that modem for 2 years now and it still works fine. It's more then paid for itself.
     
  11. Teeps

    Teeps Active Member

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    How do you know?
    Could cable cards be legally purchased from from salvaged cable boxes?
     
  12. lessd

    lessd Active Member

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    That would not be reasonable as the cable co would re-use the cable card, and they have almost no value except in some places, in Comcast CT the card shuts down after about 45 days, if not activated, or plug in.
     
  13. siratfus

    siratfus New Member

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    Well, don't need channel maps. Where I live indoor antenna is crap. And I don't want to bother with outdoor antenna. My parents only need a few local channels. Using the antenna doesn't work, but if I pop in a cablecard I got from eBay. It works. I get all the local channels that I need and there are lots of them including all the big networks like CBS, ABC, NBC. Like I said, an antenna does not work for us. Plugging in the Antenna into the tivo doesn't tune anything. I tried all sorts of scenario. The only thing that works for us is a cable card inside the tivo. I bought two on eBay and they both work.
     
  14. siratfus

    siratfus New Member

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    I got two on eBay. Maybe I got lucky? I always ask sellers if they would know whether or not the cards have been used by Verizon, and they never know the answer. I bought two anyways, and they both worked. I cannot tune cable channels, but I get all the local stuff that my antenna cannot tune.
     
  15. Teeps

    Teeps Active Member

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    So the questions is: did you try to get the Ebay cable cards activated by Verizon?
     
  16. siratfus

    siratfus New Member

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    No.

    That box has no tivo service, no pairing with our cable. Just using it as an old school tuner for local channels. If you want to pair it and tune the cable channels as well, you would need an activation code from Verizon. As many of said here, they won't do it, so I haven't bothered.
     
  17. Teeps

    Teeps Active Member

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    Understood.
    Thanks for the answer.
     
  18. siratfus

    siratfus New Member

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    If I attempt to go through the pairing process with an agent and it doesn't work, I fear I may have exposed myself. I don't know how this stuff works, so I'm not sure what Verizon is capable of or aren't capable of on their end . I fear that if we try and fail, they now have the cable card number, host ID, etc. They can then possibly render it completely useless. You guys think this fear/paranoia is warranted? If not, then I would give it a try.
     
  19. headless chicken

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    With Verizon every fear is warranted. They are a money-grubbing corporation that will nickel & dime you to death. If they learn you obtained an unauthorized CC from another source other than their official stock they will probably render it inert.
     
  20. siratfus

    siratfus New Member

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    LOL! In that case, I'll quit while I'm ahead.
     

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