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How long before a bigger official eSATA drive?

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by singletb, Oct 23, 2007.

  1. singletb

    singletb New Member

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    Let me start by saying that I am very excited about today's announcements. However, I was hoping for a little more than 500 GB in the expandable storage area. How long (if ever) do you think it will be before 750 GB and 1 TB drives come out? Should I pull the trigger now and risk being stuck with a useless 500 GB drive when bigger models come out? Can an eSATA such as this be re-formated and used as a regular external storage drive on a computer? If so, then it wouldn't be a total waste if a newer, larger model was released.
     
  2. Goober96

    Goober96 New Member

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    And can 2 DVR Expanders be connected to one Tivo?
     
  3. Dmon4u

    Dmon4u Unresponsive User

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    http://www.tivo.com/mytivo/domore/storage/faqs.html

    " Can I use more than one DVR Expander drive with my TiVo® DVR?

    No. The TiVo® DVR only supports one DVR Expander."

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    I'm waiting till they at least get to 1 Tb or more. Just guessing, but I'd say that an approved 500 Gb drive is way to small for the majority of those around here.
     
  4. sommerfeld

    sommerfeld Lucky (?) 200 member

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    Yes.
     
  5. Joybob

    Joybob New Member

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    Are you on a S3 or HD?
     
  6. TiVoPony

    TiVoPony New Member

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    Alviso,...
    Well, what if I doubled the SD recording capacity for you? How about up to 600 hours of SD capacity instead of 300?

    Poof! Done. :)

    The quoted '300 hours' is for the Scientific Atlanta DVR, not for a TiVo DVR. The HD numbers are the same, but a TiVo DVR can record up to 600 additional hours of SD content using the My DVR Expander.

    Cheers,
    Pony
     
  7. singletb

    singletb New Member

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    Don't get me wrong, that is more space than I will ever need for SD. The ever increasing number of HD channels is my main concern. However, reading above about being able to use as a regular external drive on the computer sold me. If there is ever a bigger version of the same product, I can just use my old drive on my computer!
     
  8. Joybob

    Joybob New Member

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    Dude, use a 1 TB solution if you have an S3.
     
  9. Joe3

    Joe3 Member

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    Cable has been adding many HD channels these past weeks because of Direct TV's expansion.

    A total of 750 G in HD hours?

    Poof! Gone. :)
     
  10. singletb

    singletb New Member

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    I have an S3, but don't feel comfortable with doing a hack or kickstart or whatever else. Can you plug and play drives other than the WD my DVR expander?
     
  11. Joybob

    Joybob New Member

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    YES!!!
     
  12. singletb

    singletb New Member

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    Have any reccomendations? From what I have read, an eSATA plugged in to a DVR needs to be a bit more ruged than most.
     
  13. Joybob

    Joybob New Member

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    I think they exaggerate the need for a more robust drive.
     
  14. spectrumsp

    spectrumsp New Member

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    TivoPony...

    First I want to thank you for all of the insight and information you provide all of us...so, with that intro, I'm going to call upon you as the guru of knowledge to solve a preplexing question.

    Help me out here...why can an S3 use the MX-1 as an expander but not the THD? It's the same software on both, therefore it contains the same drivers for functionality. The MX-1 should work fine on the THD...if you (Tivo) would only allow it...why not?

    Am I missing something?
     
  15. TiVoPony

    TiVoPony New Member

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    Alviso,...
    The backdoor that allowed any eSATA drive to work with the Series3 was not intended for public consumption. Once it got out though, there was little we could do short of disabling all the drives the community had already purchased and installed. That would have been unpleasant for everyone, so the Series3 is grandfathered to work with non-verified eSATA drives via the eSATA menus. We will not provide any support however for non-verified drives, or any issues that arise from having used one.

    There wasn't a backdoor for the TiVo HD platform, nor will there be one. The TiVo Verified solutions are the way to go with a TiVo HD. I'd recommend it for the Series3 as well!

    Pony
     
  16. tomryan

    tomryan New Member

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    And this is why TIVO will always get my money.. Thanks Pony for the honest answer (no support, none expected, I won't call/complain/etc when it breaks) and for doing the "right" thing and grandfathering those users of the S3 who had found a way.
     
  17. spectrumsp

    spectrumsp New Member

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    TivoPony...

    Thank you for your prompt response...

    Will Tivo begin, in the near term, evaluating other THD extender devices for compability such as the MX-1...

    As an aside...since we already know that the MX-1 functions properly with the existing software, shouldn't Tivo at least allow it to work with THD while it explores other Esata devices for compability.
     
  18. beerkensp

    beerkensp New Member

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    I upgraded my internal drive to 750Gb. At that time I was convinced that that would be plenty for a long time to come. It is surprising how quickly it fills up with HD content.

    I find that if I have not been able to watch a lot of TV for a couple of weeks that my drive is getting full and I have to make the difficult decision of what to delete.

    I definitly will be looking to add another 1Tb as an eSata. I wich that my expensive (yes I paid $800) tivo3 was able to support more than 2Tb.
     
  19. kingmob

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    I'm wondering whether the DVR Expander can be easily disassembled and a larger hard drive installed, without compromising the ability of Tivo HD's to use it. (If necessary, I suppose one could clone the included drive to the larger replacement, in case there's any relevant software installed on the former.)
     
  20. HDTiVo

    HDTiVo Not so Senior Member

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    I highly recommend that everyone that possibly can man up and do their own MFS upgrades. It is quite a satisfying experience, much cheaper and offers many more options.
     

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