I don't subscribe to digital cable, but I do have CableCARD. I get HD channels, and digital simulcast for the analog ones. In my neck of the woods (Comcast San Francisco), you can get CableCARD without subscribing to digital cable, which will get you the locals in HD: HDTV - Limited Basic 702 KTVU-2 (FOX) HD 703 KNTV-HDTV 704 KRON-HD 705 KPIX-(CBS) 707 KGO-HDTV 709 KQED-HDTV HDTV - Digital Classic 719 InDemand - HD 720 FSNBA (Check Listings For Times) 722 Discovery - HD 723 ESPN - HD 724 ESPN 2 HD 725 HD Special Events 726 TNT HD Note that the local stations do NOT require Digital Cable service. All they require is CableCARD for $1.50 a month. This is the exact same lineup you would get if Tivo gave you QAM mapping.