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House of Cards - Season 2 - Episodes 01 and 02

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by john4200, Feb 14, 2014.

  1. GoPackGo

    GoPackGo Active Member

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    You'll pass out by E05.
     
  2. MikeAndrews

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    Frank Underwood or Frank Gallagher?

    Coincidence? I think not.
     
  3. JYoung

    JYoung Series 3

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    I thought that Webb approached Buchwalter about supporting him against Jackie, saying that she was leaking info to them to use against each other and they needed to unite against her.

    My thought was that Jackie offered Ways and Means to Buchwalter in order get his support (and voting bloc) for her.

    Jackie reluctantly threw her mentor under the bus to seal the deal.
     
  4. uncdrew

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    Love the show.

    However...


    Wow, the cops really didn't look at the camera video 30 seconds before Zoe flies in front of the train? Or where she was the prior 10 minutes and how she and the guy she spoke to both walked the same path when leaving the camera?

    Yikes, that seemed like a huge miss.
     
  5. uncdrew

    uncdrew Annie 2.0

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    Why did she have to sell out her friend? I missed that piece.
     
  6. uncdrew

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    That was another item that bugged me.

    Wouldn't they be able to look at her phone records and see that she deleted FU's contact three minutes before death?

    Fishy.

    ...and yes, they mentioned that it's hard to get phone records. But on every other show (Law & Order, etc.) they get them pretty easily. Heck, just get Zoe's phone off the train tracks and check it.
     
  7. uncdrew

    uncdrew Annie 2.0

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    You certainly might be right, but I took it to be that she needed information about those experimental drugs so she could effectively black-mail her ex-employee.

    The second she got that, no need to talk to doctor anymore.
     
  8. MikeAndrews

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    Jackie needed Buchwalter's support. As above Frank was hoping that Buchwalter and would split the vote for Whip so Jackie could win, but Jackie asked Buchwalter for his votes? Buchwalter wanted Jackie's mentor, Havemeyer to endure pain for financing the candidate opposing him for Senate - 11 years ago.

    Frank watched her delete him as a contact and all of his texts, but of course they get saved all over the place.

    She was on Letterman pretty much giving away what happens, "Stay away from the subway."
     
  9. uncdrew

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    Yes, he's amazing at getting people to distrust one another.
     
  10. uncdrew

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    Ahh...

    So there were 2 guys up for Whip. I thought when Jackie talked to one of them he was wanting her to burn the other one. Not Jackie's benefactor.

    So if each of those 2 guys up for whip had 40% of the votes each and Jackie had 20%, she helped one by screwing her benefactor and now has 60% of the votes in exchange.

    Thanks.
     
  11. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give em Hell, Devils

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    Yeah, that was a huge plot hole. No way would they only zero in on that tiny portion of the video, but even worse, was the fact that Lucas, an intrepid reporter, didn't call them on it and ask to see everything from the moment Zoe entered the station.
     
  12. JYoung

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    I don't think that Underwood was actually on camera.
    Remember that he was staying in the construction area, around the fence corner from Zoe.
     
  13. Robin

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    Yes, but it would have showed strange behavior from her.
     
  14. john4200

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    That is what I thought, too. To see Frank, you had to be standing close to the track, and even then Frank was in shadow wearing dark clothes. The surveillance camera does not quite have the angle. It is close, though. Possibly someone standing near the track could have seen Frank, but apparently no one came forward.

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  15. john4200

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    The way she approached the fence, furtively looking around, would look strange. Then leaning against the fence and her mouth moving would look very strange. And her dash behind the fence also. The show glossed over all of that by just showing her "leap" into the train from the surveillance camera.
     
  16. uncdrew

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    ...and he entered the subway. He's on camera.

    I actually spent enough time rewinding and rewatching (enough that my wife got a bit perturbed) and it looked like their conversation started in clear view of the camera we witnessed in the police station.

    I told my wife I'd come to the internet (which mean y'all) and someone would have done a better job researching it than I did.
     
  17. uncdrew

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    I did appreciate how Frank spun her before throwing her on the tracks.

    Made me think it was most certainly pre-meditated. At least by a few minutes. :p
     
  18. rifleman69

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    Yep, the other two also figured it out and had to "work" with each other to keep her out.
     
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    That's why he wore the hat, (suspend reality for a bit here), he never looked up at the cameras and it would be hard to identify him from any camera angle (back to reality).

    This thread is making me jones for starting up episode 3.
     
  20. uncdrew

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    Yes, I like suspending reality. It's only on really, really good shows that I expect a little more. And with just 20 seconds more of conversation all my issues with this could have been resolved.
     

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