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Homeland S02E12 "The Choice" 12/16/2012

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by robojerk, Dec 17, 2012.

  1. tiams

    tiams New Member

    Apr 19, 2004
    You are forgetting the many ways the hit and run moved the plot along. For one thing, it led Brody to his melt down and to him telling the reporter he was done with Nazir and everything spiraling from there. It led to Dana seeing him with Carrie and subsequently telling Jessica that they were together. The payoff gave Brody even more desire to kill the VP. Etc.
  2. danterner

    danterner Not it!

    Mar 4, 2005
    Greenacres, FL
    I have just now finished watching Homeland, start to finish over the course of about a month. Overall, I found it very entertaining and I'm still on board for next season. Some thoughts:

    It bothered me throughout that whenever Jessica spoke to Brody, she called him "Brody." Who calls their spouse by their last name? I've never met anyone that does that.

    Regarding Saul as the mole; I just don't see it, based on the way his character has been portrayed and based upon the things he has done. It would take some very fine writing to convince me otherwise. There have, though, been moments when I have had some suspicions - like his seemingly intentional failing of the first lie detector test, in season one. And while his saying the mourner's kaddish for the dead victims of the Langley blast at the end of this season seemed entirely in character, it struck an odd note when he said the mourner's kaddish the first time, for the dead terrorist (the one Brody ostensibly slipped a razor blade to, last season). Also, did anyone else catch that in the first season episode where Saul was on the road trip with Eileen (terrorist lady), and they pitstopped at his old schul, there was a brief shot of them standing around and you could see Saul twiddling his fingers, hand at his side, very much the same way that Brody had in the first episodes when they were trying to figure out what that might mean? It was not the focus of the shot the way it was composed, and nothing was ever made of it so I went on to assume it was just a red herring. Finally, it seems there's a relatively short list of people who both had possession of the Brody confession video and who survived the blast. Saul is one of those people. In my opinion, none of that adds up in a way that tips the scale in favor of him being a mole. But it's all interesting to note.
  3. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

    Oct 17, 2000
    In previous threads, it's been noted that this is not unheard of in the military.
  4. jeff92k7

    jeff92k7 Annoyed with trolls

    Jan 18, 2006
    on planet earth
    I did too. Just finished it a couple days ago. Great so far, but I agree that the second season wasn't as good as the first. The Carrie Brody thing is too much.

    I was about to post the very same thing. I would not at all be surprised if Saul was the mole, but the sticking point for me is his relationship with Carrie. They would have to write it in that he was the mole for anything that wouldn't affect Carrie. He liked her more than the terrorists and would do anything except what might hurt Carrie. IDK...I guess the writers could take it either way. Still, there's a lot of circumstantial evidence suggesting that he is the mole, or at least, not perfectly clean.

    Something that I'm surprised hasn't been mentioned in this thread is how the most recent meeting between Nazir and Brody factors in. We saw from the CIA debriefing that Brody wasn't being completely honest about it. That was consistent with everything Brody has done.... He has told the CIA most of the plan, but always held something back. Second, he nodded to Carrie during the ceremony as if to say "we need to leave now". I thought that was suspicious BEFORE the whole bomb thing. Once the bomb went off, it suddenly became clear why he wanted to leave the ceremony then. Whether the writers for season 3 come back and say he knew about the bombing beforehand or not, I don't really know, but I also took the whole "looking out the window and being surprised that his SUV was moved" as being conveniently forced... Almost like he said that only for Carrie so he would have a way to explain away any suspicion on him. In other words, he was playing on her emotions to get himself out of trouble.

    I'm eager for season 3, but I do hope they put the Carrie/Brody relationship behind them. I like it better when Carrie knows he's bad, but just can't prove it yet.

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