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Homeland S02E03 OAD 10/14/12

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by DeDondeEs, Oct 15, 2012.

  1. DeDondeEs

    DeDondeEs Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    No thread yet?

    Man at the beginning when Saul was getting searched in the airport and they took the memory card, I thought, "Oh great, this is going to go in circles" But now at least two people know about it.

    Why didn't Brody just say he wouldn't go get that guy? He has leverage with the terrorists now since he is in a high up political position. Why would they have him do anything to compromise that?

    It's been said in many threads before but man, Claire Danes can play one convincing crazy woman.

    Now I know how to jack up a car if the jack isn't present as long as I can find some split firewood on the side of the road.
     
  2. DreadPirateRob

    DreadPirateRob Seriously?

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    Claire Danes is simply amazing, as is most of the cast. There are seriously contrived plotting issues with this show (the Brody-as-low-level-courier being the latest and maybe the worst), but it doesn't matter because Danes, Patinkin, and Lewis are so flat-out great.

    I was hoping for some more Jess boobs when they started making out in the kitchen, but alas, no. I did find it funny that Brody had a noticeable woody though. Very realistic! ;)
     
  3. Jonathan_S

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    On the one hand it seems weird the Brody was the only contact the tailor knew. Where'd he get the explosives to make the vest from? ebay?

    It would have made more sense for the tailor's normal contact path to have run through either of the dead terrorist lieutenants from last week. With them gone it would take too long to reestablish the trust with the next link down the chain, and this is an emergency.


    But it is in Brody's interest that the tailor not get picked up; since he could expose Brody. So I can see why he didn't push back too hard against having to be the one to move the guy. For Brody to be safe someone had to do it, and do it before the CIA had the tailor picked up.
     
  4. MikeAndrews

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    I was suckered in - dreading that the card being taken and a bullet to Saul would end THAT.

    What good would it have done Nazzir and Hesbolah to get the SD card after Saul had seen the video? I guess "deny, deny, deny" and "Keel you later."

    Sure it doesn't make sense that the only operative Nazzir had was Brody. He had no problem sending a handful of guys to drug and kidnap Brody from a mall parking lot.

    I still think that the tailor was supposed to off Brody. The intelligence leak that Nazzir needed to plug was the video. How would Nazzir know what emails the CIA had gotten?

    Another day. Nothing much happens: Carrie gets dissed and shut down. Goes back home in a dark cloud. Considers getting a quickie but commits suicide instead. Changes her mind. Sleeps. Door bell rings. It's Saul. Ho Hum. ;)

    (If Saul came directly over as he got off the plane from Beirut, how did he know that Carrie went back to her own home?)

    And Saul, touching the real SD card at all on the plane was dumb. You could have still been watched.

    Don' cha hate it when the wife calls and the dying guy JUST WON'T SHUT UP?!

    And Claire Danes did do it again portraying Carrie's internal angst with just facial expressions and manner.
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  5. cherry ghost

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    Looked like she still had the ring on at the end. Thought for sure Saul would notice it.
     
  6. DreadPirateRob

    DreadPirateRob Seriously?

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    I wondered about that too. I guess maybe Saul has been in Beirut this whole time, so he wouldn't necessarily know that Carrie had been temporarily living with her family? She clearly hadn't "moved out" of her place, so it wasn't completely crazy to think he would head there first.

    Yeah, me too.
     
  7. Hank

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    Saul in a big shot in the CIA. If he can't figure out where Carrie is, I'd be very worried.
     
  8. Rob Helmerichs

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    Nazir has no way of knowing, but it would actually help a lot.

    Saul goes to his bosses: "Remember the theory that the crazy lady came up with last season that was proven to be wrong? My good friend, the crazy lady, whom I risked my career standing by? Well, guess what? She was right after all! I was right to stand by her!

    "Evidence? Well, they stole the evidence, from a diplomatic pouch at airport security. Happens all the time. But trust me. She was right."

    :D
     
  9. aadam101

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    Another great episode. This show doesn't disappoint. I agree that it was dumb to think that Brody was the only person who could get the tailor. I suppose I buy their explanation but it was still pretty dumb.

    Did it seem like Mike was totally ready to have sex with Jessica? He didn't want to come in and then as soon as he knew that Brody cheated, he was more than happy to come inside. It would have been more exciting if Brody caught them.
     
  10. MikeAndrews

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    http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/...critics_said_about_state_of_independence.html
     
  11. jschuur

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    The tailor was terrified that he was going to get killed at the 'safe' house, since he was clearly no longer needed now. Brody has plenty of use and high level access.

    Whether there was actually a hitman waiting for the tailor is an interesting question now. Brody sure solved that problem for them. Now they have one more thing to hold over him.
     
  12. Rob Helmerichs

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    The irony is, after all the effort Brody went to to save the tailor, he ended up killing him because...he was having trouble explaining him to his wife. :D
     
  13. Hank

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    This is not a criticism, but I'm finding these big drama shows to have a lot in common with these "big secrets" and the "big reveal" to the significant other. Homeland with Brody and his wife, Dexter and his sister, Walter White first with Skyler. They're all "oh, he has to tell her.. now what's going to happen??"

    Like I said, not a criticism, just an observation.
     
  14. tiassa

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    It is not unbelievable that Saul called Carrie's family, and her father told him that she had moved back into her apartment.

    Brody is definitely a "Focus on the Mission" sort of guy, once the tailor ran then impaled himself in the forest, I'd have left him to die and driven back to DC.

    Here's a thought -- what if Brody and the tailor were both being set up by Nazir? With Brody's "confession" in the hands of the CIA he becomes less useful and the only other person that can corroborate that plot is the tailor.
     
  15. DeDondeEs

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    But why on earth would they want to off Brody?? They have a guy who is at a minimum sympathetic to their cause and at most will help them and he is in one of the highest positions in government. Brody's not going to rat them out since he has blood on his hands too.

    Oh wait, nevermind, the video file....
     
  16. Jonathan_S

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    I was going to say why bother taking him to the safe house if you're just going to kill him. But maybe they wanted to debrief him and make they knew about any potentially incriminating evidence the tailor might have. Which would require getting him there intact.

    Because if you just want to him dead you don't need to send someone he knows. Just have a random "customer" walk in and shoot him.
     
  17. MikeAndrews

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    Yeah. And what he says in the video "Some will call me a terrorist...82 children were killed." leaves no room for "that wasn't what I was talking about."

    We can see that the series is going to be a long plan of Carrie hooking up with Brody to get more intelligence, or something, maybe to get Nazzir. I think they'd more likely just give the evidence to the FBI and USAG and depend on Brody spilling while he's in jail. I suppose they'll say that they want to get Nazzir before he goes underground again.

    At some point Carrie says, "You're a traitor and a terrorist."

    :D In today's world Brody would refuse to resign from Congress and would still get reelected.
     
  18. jschuur

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    Nobody would sit next to him at lunch though. Just in case.
     
  19. TAsunder

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    Wow, Hank, how many times are you going to post spoilers this week? Glad I either didn't care or already knew the information that seems to be seeping out of your keyboard with reckless abandon. I really think you should read the spoiler rules that are stickied at the top of the forum under "Rules for Posting to the TV Talk Area"
     
  20. betts4

    betts4 I am Spartacus!

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    Best line of the article!!! :up:
     

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