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Holy Crap, Batman, that's a lot of space!

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by markp99, May 23, 2012.

  1. jrtroo

    jrtroo User

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    I don't think they bothered to certify the new version, the the initial press release shows that the Premiere is Energy Star certified.

    Try search- tons and tons of threads on this. I'll not start the discussion on hard drive life here, but the consensus is that its irrelevant. So, turn those suggestions back on!
     
  2. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    The four tuner TiVo uses around 21/23 watts. The two tuner TiVo uses around 24/25 watts. Even when the Elite is recording four things, it is still using less power than the two tuner Premieres.
    when not doing much else except filling the four buffers the Elite can dip just under 21 watts.

    I have noticed a savings of a few dollars on my electric bill by replacing four, two tuner Premieres, with two Elites/XL4s.
     
  3. swerver

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    Do you know why the 2 tuner uses more power? Seems odd.
     
  4. Jonathan_S

    Jonathan_S Active Member

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    Nitpick, that isn't true of the DirecTV TiVos (at least up through the series 2 units; I've got no experience with any of their HD TiVo offerings)

    If you woke one of those up from an hour of standby there'd be a 60 minute seemless gap missing in the live buffer. (It wasn't indicated in the progress bar, but 1 second you're watching the buffer content from 8:15 the next second from 9:15)
    Just a guess but possibly the ATCS tuners (which the elite doesn't have) take more power than the QAM tuners. (under the hood the premiere actually does have 4 tuners, 2 dedicated to QAM (cable) and 2 dedicated to ATSC (over the air antenna))
     
  5. allan

    allan Can't think of one

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    Agreed! My current Tivo is a Weaknees DirecTivo with a supersized drive. It should be big enough. However, I have a habit of keeping a bunch of KUID shows, and I recently got a warning that if I KUID'd a show, that other stuff would get deleted early. There's no such thing as enough HD space. :p
     
  6. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    As others said, your TiVo is "always" recording (live buffer), whether you have suggestions on or not. Plus the drive is always spinning. I don't think turning off suggestions is going to make much difference in drive life. And it will make no difference in power.

    And if the TiVo DID support spinning down the drive and back up again between stuff, that would certainly lower the life of the drive. Sometimes you can't win :)
     
  7. scandia101

    scandia101 Just the facts ma'am

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    I've had a 2TB drive in my Premiere (original 2 tuner) for almost a year and I consistently sit at 17-21% capacity. I like not ever feeling rushed to watch anything.
     
  8. swerver

    swerver Member

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    That makes sense. Does that mean I can record 4 at a time if I hook up the antenna?
     
  9. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    No. Each "tuner" can tune to either cable OR over the air... can't do both at the same time.
     
  10. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    Think of it as two virtual tuners. Each virtual tuner can record either QAM, ATSC, or NTSC. You can only record two things concurrently.
     
  11. Leon WIlkinson

    Leon WIlkinson TiVo Gone Wild

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    It's really easy, if you can learn ahead about anything you might have to do so your computer will be able use the copying program.

    Yes, you can pay a $60 to $100 premium for true plug & play.

    Maybe I should let you buy a hard drive and ship it to me , I could do it for $45... ;)

    This was a joke but sound kind of cool.
     
  12. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    Well, that is essentially what the people selling the drives are doing. They have an image of a drive and restore it to a new drive: They unbox the drive, connect it to a computer, click on a button, it copies for a few minutes, they disconnect and repack the drive.
     
  13. agredon

    agredon New Member

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    I'm already at 13 Terabytes [on my PC] and counting !!! That's not a typo: (3 x 2 TB) + (2 x 3 TB) + Assorted Old HDDs (60 GB - 500 GB in Size). Only ~ 3 TB of that is Movies. The rest is mostly TV Shows.
     
  14. steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

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    Jeez. And here I thought my 5 TB (a 1 TB + 2TB in the PC and 2 TB in the Tivo) was excessive. :eek: :D
     
  15. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    I guess the 100+TB I have in storage is excessive then?:)

    I've got 56TB in my WHS, 32TB in my first unRAID, 7TB in my second unRAID, and around 10TB in my other NAS devices and desktop PCs.

    I guess if you add the TiVos that is even more storage.
     
  16. agredon

    agredon New Member

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    If I had the money, I'd build myself at least one of these.

    http://blog.backblaze.com/2009/09/01/petabytes-on-a-budget-how-to-build-cheap-cloud-storage/

    If I used 3 TB HDDs, each server would have a capacity of 135 TB.
     

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