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History of the Eagles (documentary on Showtime)

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by mwhip, Feb 18, 2013.

  1. Steveknj

    Steveknj Lost in New Joisey

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    I wish this would make it on to streaming or DVD/BD. I definitely want to watch this, but not enough to sub to Showtime. Of course the times we've had free previews, it's not been on. :(
     
  2. super dave

    super dave Upgrade Willy

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    It's on demand if you have it.
     
  3. Steveknj

    Steveknj Lost in New Joisey

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    Nope, need a Showtime sub to access it.
     
  4. Saturn_V

    Saturn_V Now with flavor!

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    A huge notch. That tour made more in two years ($160M) than they ever did touring during the 1970s. The live album and the MTV concert video that debuted later that year made it a perfect storm. I saw em in '94 in Mountain View, CA. I still remember being astonished with the cross-generational makeup of the audience.

    The Blu-Ray has been in my wishlist for a few months. I may finally pull the trigger on it now.
     
  5. Steveknj

    Steveknj Lost in New Joisey

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    Added to my wishlist as well. If this shows up on Showtime the next time I get a freebie, I'll remove. If not I'll by this before the holidays. I like the idea that there's a concert included with this. I enjoy watching concerts of bands I like on DVD/BD or even streaming.
     
  6. ScubaCat

    ScubaCat Shades of Blue......

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    The documentary is also available on iTunes for $12.99.
     
  7. SteveInNC

    SteveInNC New Member

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    If you're talking about the Hell Freezes Over tour, I'm kind of pissed at them because that was the first concert that broke over $100/ticket at our local shed venue, even for lawn seats. Until then, even big contemporary acts would max at around $40-45 for reserved seats. After HFO, all ticket pricing took a big jump.
     
  8. DougF

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    Yep, that's the one. Well, the whole event really (reunion, tour, video, cd, etc.) My ticket for that tour was ~$65 for mid-range in in April of '95. Several years later ('02 or '03), paid over $100/ticket for similiar seats. That was my last huge concert. Decided after that one that the prices weren't worth it and I've only seen a few state fair shows since. Haven't paid more than $30 for one of those shows.
     
  9. DougF

    DougF Active Member

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    Read this week that Bernie Leadon is playing on their current tour in support of the documentary. Felder wasn't invited for obvious reasons. Not sure why Meisner wasn't either.
     
  10. Lori

    Lori Social Defective TCF Club

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  11. bsnelson

    bsnelson Mid-life anti-crisis in progress TCF Club

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    After having had this sit on the DVR since February, I finally watched it last night. Wow. I expected it to be kind of a glorified "Behind The Music" type thing, but it's light years ahead of that. The amount of archival footage (as others have noted) was vast. The storytelling was great (although, as others have noticed, not much on Frey vs. Henley), and it was great learning about how the various members left and came into the band.

    I agree that Frey is a bit full of himself; I thought his solo work was the weakest of the bunch (well, weakest of Henley, Walsh and Frey), and I don't like most of it. Henley and Walsh's stuff, OTOH, I love and listen to regularly.

    One thing I'd always wondered, and now reinforced after seeing this, is why they didn't have Schmit sing lead on "Take It To The Limit" after Meisner left? He had basically been "swapped in" for Meisner in Poco, singing and playing the same stuff; why did they re-key the song and have Frey sing it? I'll always love Meisner's version the best (this is my favorite Eagles song, but only if he's singing).

    And finally, a note to all would-be singers who are living in the AutoTune age: Listen to the a cappella parts of this show closely, and decide whether or not you are, in fact, a singer, or are you just input for AutoTune. They sounded stunning, both in the 70s and in the much later years, but honestly, the opening scene with them singing "Seven Bridges Road" in the dressing room just blew me away. No electronics of any kind, just organic voices. Wow.

    Brad
     
  12. tvmaster2

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    I liked it a lot - the footage from the 70's being the best part, just because there was so much and of good quality as well.

    However, by the end of hearing his whining about money, Glenn Frey comes off as being a bit of a jerk. Most bands generally split the touring money equally. Where Frey/Henley make the big bucks is from writing royalties.

    Did Led Zeppelin pay John Bonham less than Robert Plant with regards to touring money? Not likely.

    Did John Deacon make less than Freddie Mercury when on stage? Not likely (actually, in their later years, Queen equalized everything to the point of saying "all songs written by Queen"). Fans all knew who wrote most of the song, but they decided in the end that it would cut down on un-productive fighting in the studio.

    I'm surprised that Tim Schmidt and Joe Walsh AGREED to getting less money for touring. That just shows a) how much they needed the money because of their lack of writing royalties, and b) how much money writing royalties earn for the artist. And while Felder may also be a bit of a jerk away from the cameras, Frey made the point it was all about the money, so that's the only point I'm focusing on here.

    Frey comes off as a complete a%^hole by the end of the doc, and since Henley (ooo, the big Democrat) essentially goes along with this, just not on film, he's kinda a jerk as well.

    If that's the way they feel, that they're worth more on stage than everyone else, then just hire four lackies, pay them scale, and hit the road....
     
  13. MikeAndrews

    MikeAndrews Registered abuser

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    Well, like Joe said he just wanted to play on the stuff that Henley and Frey wrote. I don't think Joe needed the money that much. He does fine recording and touring on his own and with such as Ringo.
     
  14. heySkippy

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    I thought Frey came across as a competent businessman successfully running his business in a way to maximize its value. Made perfect sense to me.
     
  15. Steveknj

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    Any plans to put this on DVD/BD? I don't have Showtime, but I would love to see this.
     
  16. Wilhite

    Wilhite ...no stinkin' title

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    Yep.
     
  17. Steveknj

    Steveknj Lost in New Joisey

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    Awesome. Thanks!! Early holiday present for me from myself perhaps? :D

    I'll have to see if it's streaming somewhere first though.
     
  18. MPSAN

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    Yes, Google is your friend. :)
     
  19. bsnelson

    bsnelson Mid-life anti-crisis in progress TCF Club

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    It wasn't just the money, though. At times, he made it sound like the band's success was primarily because of him (he even used "I" in a few places), whereas Henley seems to have had at least an equal part.

    I tend to think of The Eagles today as Henley, Frey, Walsh and Schmit, with the latter more or less being "Oh yeah, he's the bass player and sings 'I Can't Tell You Why'". At the least, the core has to include Walsh from a performance standpoint. I don't think this is like, say, KISS with Eric Singer and Tommy Thayer, who pretty much are interchangeable parts behind the makeup (albeit pretty good ones).

    Either way, just give me "Take It To The Limit" with Meisner on vox, or any other Eagles song with whomever is singing and playing, and I'm probably enjoying it. :)

    Brad
     
  20. tvmaster2

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    maybe, but if I want to watch business docs, I'll turn on Bloomberg. This is music...art...passion. Actually, I'd pay to see Joe Walsh live....the other guys...meh.
    Don't get me wrong - I have several Eagles discs and they wrote some great songs...but records are one thing, live performance another...
     

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