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HIMYM S07E23/4 "The Magician's Code" 14 May 2012

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Amnesia, May 14, 2012.

  1. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give em Hell, Devils

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    I have no problem with Barney and Robin together. I liked them together the first time and thought they abandoned it too quickly.

    While I liked Victoria the first time she was on, the situation for her to be on now just sucks. Ted is a complete ***** for trying to keep her from her wedding.

    As for the Barney/Robin wedding, didn't it say that it took place in May 2012? And haven't they always kept the episodes pretty close to the current time? So are we to believe that next season they're going to be telling stories that happen before May 2012? That seems very out of character for the show.
     
  2. Fleegle

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    I can't disagree more. Victoria had jitters and last-minute doubts. She even admitted as much when she said that once she heard him say that he can't steal her away, she felt herself "sobering up". For Ted to take advantage of that, especially after his speech about he can't be the guy to cause another man to be left at the altar, means he's not only a bad person, he's edging toward evil.
     
  3. windracer

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    I think all the wedding scenes were preceeded by "... a little ways down the road." It was the flashback from the wedding (before Ted walks into the bride's room) to Marvin's birth that went to May 2012.
     
  4. Sparty99

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    We'll agree to disagree. I will say that if anyone walks away from her wedding in her dress to meet up with a former boyfriend asking to be driven into the sunset, she isn't real keen on getting married. You think she's going to walk back to the altar, say, "Ok, I'm good now," and be married for the next 50 years? Victoria'd be divorced in 2 years with nothing but regret for leaving Ted behind and marrying the wrong guy.

    As for being evil, I say that sometimes someone needs to take that first step to get people where they need to go, and it's not always the easiest thing to do because you know you're not necessarily doing the "right thing".
     
  5. aindik

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    Did not like Barney with Robin at all.

    Also, anyone else think Robin looked weird in the wedding dress?

    Robin treating Lily like a pregnant horse was hilarious.

    I saw the "50 laps" thing coming a mile away.

    Oh, and http://lilysinlabor.com/
     
  6. robojerk

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    Whether you think Ted is a dousche or not, Victoria should've ended things with her fiancee before running away. There's thinking for yourself and then there's selfish.

    She may not even be wanting to be married and will just be another emotionally unavailable girl Ted is drawn to.
     
  7. MauriAnne

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    Thanks, I forgot to check the link when I watched it.

    I also replayed it a couple times to make sure Robin really *was* wearing a wedding dress. I guess I'm so used to misdirection on this show, I'm skeptical.
     
  8. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give em Hell, Devils

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    If we had some reason to believe that Victoria was "the one" and that by ditching her fiance at the altar and running off with Ted, she and Ted were going to live happily ever after, I think I wouldn't have a problem with it. But we know that Victoria is not "the one," because the way she and Ted met doesn't sync up with the clues we've been given, so basically if Ted and Victoria get together (again), it will just be another of Ted's dead-end relationships.
     
  9. robojerk

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    I agree with the theory that Ted marries Barney's sister. It makes more sense since Barney and Robin will actually be the uncle and aunt.
     
  10. Fleegle

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    My point is that she DID start to say "Ok, I'm good now" after Ted originally said he wouldn't run away with her. She said she was starting to "Sober up" after that. That tells me she panicked right around the time Ted called her and bolted. Once that panic subsided, she came to her senses. But when Ted decided to be selfish and drive on past the church, he became an enabler to her panic. You notice he never asked her "Do you love this guy", or anything similar.

    Ted had no idea where Victoria "needed to go", he was being a selfish prick. And I reject your your idea about doing the wrong thing for the right reasons. I live by the Golden Rule. Don't do something to another person that you wouldn't want to happen to you. Ted's move was an evil one.
     
  11. Fleegle

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    Exactly. And I will bet dollars to donuts that he won't feel guilty about destroying what could have been a perfectly happy marriage when he and Victoria eventually break up.

    Ted has become the same as the evil bastard who stole Stella away at their wedding.
     
  12. Sparty99

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    You're getting a little off track here. Ted wasn't being a selfish prick. He called Victoria, said, "Meet me at 2," she said, "How about 1:30, I may have somewhere to be." Ted had no idea she was getting married so he wasn't saying, "Hey, you're getting married at 2, so meet me at 1:30 so I can convince you to not get married." He was merely calling an ex-girlfriend to see where things stood.

    My point about the wedding is this: my guess is that most brides and grooms experience a moment of panic leading up to their wedding day. That's normal. When that panic extends to leaving the church in your wedding dress to see an ex-boyfriend and ask that he runs off into the sunset with her, there's not going to be a sobering up. If Ted had never said that he couldn't do it, Victoria and he would've gone back to her place or on the honeymoon or any number of places, and everything would be as it is.

    And forgive me for saying so, but spare me the Golden Rule stuff. I try not to do things that I'd want done to me too. But if my choice is leaving someone I think could be the love of my life to marry someone she's probably not going to be happy with and driving past the church and going off to only god knows where, I'm choosing the latter and not feeling the least bit bad about it. And I won't hear of anyone calling me evil for doing so.
     
  13. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give em Hell, Devils

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    Ted wasn't a ***** for calling her. He was a selfish ***** when he realized she was supposed to get married that afternoon, was having second thoughts, and he basically became an accessory.

    If things are going to work out with Victoria, it shouldn't be because Ted basically "stole" her away from her wedding.
     
  14. Sparty99

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    You do recall that Ted went back to confront Stella and her ex/new husband and found that they were happy together and that he was ok with their decision because the two of them belonged together, right?
     
  15. robojerk

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    That doesn't make what Stella did was right. She and her ex husband screwed him over, then poured salt in the wound by making a movie about it.
     
  16. whitson77

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    Put me int he camp that likes Barney with Quinn a whole lot more than Robin with Barney...

    I am fairly certain they didn't really have a clue who the mother was or where they were going with this until maybe this season. This show is missing for me a lot more than it is hitting these days.
     
  17. Sparty99

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    And I didn't say it was right, I said it was necessary for their personal happiness. And that takes me back to what I was originally saying: sometimes doing what's best for you is not necessarily the right thing. If your position is that you shouldn't do it because it wasn't the right thing, fine, that works for you, but not for me. If that makes me a bad person or someone on the Internet considers me evil, I'm ok with it.

    And to respond to DevdogAZ's point, Victoria wasn't looking for an accomplice to give her an excuse not to get married. She was looking for Ted to carry her off into the sunset. That's not a matter of, "Thank God, I've got an excuse not to get married now." That's a matter of, "Thank God!" along the same lines of what we heard from Victoria when Ted found her in season 1.
     
  18. TonyD79

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    Disagree. What I think they did NOT anticipate happening was being on the air this long and having to drag it out. They had an end game in mind and have now put it in place. It was the starting time that moved.

    I get this feeling by reading some of their plans not by something particular that anyone said.
     
  19. mdougie

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    I think they have known what character would eventually be the mother for a long time. I agree its Barny's sister. I think they have only recently thought about casting the role.
     
  20. YCantAngieRead

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    Ugh. I hate Victoria. I'm not looking forward to watching the second half. The first half was kinda nice, actually.
     

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