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** HD TiVo and HD DirecTV TiVo FAQ **

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by feldon23, Jan 1, 2004.

  1. bukzin

    bukzin New Member

    Sep 14, 2002
    Could you give us more detail?

    features, model number, when we can buy/rent it?

  2. stevel

    stevel Dumb Blond TC Club

    Aug 23, 2000
    Nobody knows yet. When (if) it makes its appearance I am sure you will read about it here.
  3. Rainy Dave

    Rainy Dave Regulated User

    Nov 11, 2001
    THR22. You currently can't get it. Should be available from DirecTv, Solidsignal.com when it is released.
  4. vader88

    vader88 New Member

    Dec 5, 2007
    I just got off the phone with DirecTv complaining about my HR21 and it's slowness. Was asking about getting a HR24 and while talking I asked about the Tivo. She looked it up and said it launches Dec 8, 2011. The price is 199.00 and if I renew my contract it would be 99.00. The Tivo service is 5.00 additional, I don't know if this is in addition to the DVR charge we already paid. I'm supposed to call back and get the deal, but not sure which way I'm going to go yet, I do miss my Tivo though.
  5. litzdog911

    litzdog911 TechKnow Guide

    Oct 18, 2002
    Yes, the extra $5/mo is a Tivo fee that's in addition to your current DVR fee.
  6. feldon23

    feldon23 MythBuster

    Mar 13, 2001
    Backup of the original FAQ:

    CableLabs/OTA HD TiVo -- Fall 2006 release


    At the CES 2006 show, TiVo announced a standalone HD TiVo prototype with two CableCard tuners and Over-the-Air (OTA 8VSB) ATSC tuners. The unit was capable of receiving, recording, and performing all TiVo functions on local analog Cable and digital Cable and digital HDTV Cable broadcasts as well as digital HDTV over-the-air broadcasts. More information on this Series 3 TiVo, which will be released in mid-to-late 2006, will be made available in a companion FAQ.

    In 2003, TiVo demoed a standalone HD TiVo prototype with two Over-the-Air (OTA 8VSB) ATSC tuners. The unit was capable of receiving, recording and performing all TiVo functions on local digital/HDTV broadcasts received through an antenna. Lack of market interest stalled further development.

    DirecTV HD TiVo -- April 21st, 2004

    [​IMG] Back of HDTiVo

    In April 2004, DirecTV launched the DirecTV HR10-250 DirecTV with TiVo with 250GB capacity offering ~30 hours of high definition, ~200 hours of standard definition recording, or any combination of the two. *Actual recording time will vary depending on the type of programming being recorded. [Press Release...]
    [ Specifications Front ] [ Specifications Back ]

    DirecTV HD TiVos contain 2 DirecTV SD/HD/OTA tuners (a total of 3 coax inputs) which can receive/record standard definition and high definition programming from DirecTV as well as local digital/HDTV broadcasts brought in by an antenna. 2 tuners means 2 different shows can be recorded simultaneously.

    DirecTV HD TiVos were introduced with an MSRP of $999 but can now be found for $400 or less.

    [size=+1]What is the future of the DirecTV HD TiVo?[/size]

    After the acquisition of DirecTV by Rupert Murdoch, DirecTV announced the dissolution of their partnership with TiVo and introduced their own competing DVRs developed by Murdoch's partner company NDS. The NDS-designed standard definition DirecTV DVR was released in October 2005 and the High Definition NDS DVR is slated for a mid-2006 release. In light of this news, TiVo has introduced a standalone OTA/CableCard TiVo and is also developing a DVR with Comcast.

    DirecTV TiVos and DirecTV HD TiVos will continue to function for an indefinite period but DirecTV HD TiVos will not be able to receive the HDTV programming DirecTV intends to roll out through 2006 and 2007, specifically local channels over satellite. This is because this new programming is in MPEG-4 and will be broadcast from different satellite orbital locations, neither of which the TiVo models recognize.

    [size=+1]What ports and cables does the DirecTV HD TiVo include?[/size]

    DirecTV HD TiVo ports include two USB2.0 ports (reserved for future use), 1 Component (RGB) video output, 1 HDMI output, 1 S-Video output, 1 Composite video output, 1 Stereo audio output, 1 SPD/IF Optical output, and 1 Modem jack.

    DirecTV HD TiVos ship with these cables: Coax F-type (for satellite), RCA (Yellow/red/white), S-Video, Component (red-green-blue cable which is PbPrY standard), HDMI-DVI adapter, HDMI-HDMI cable, Optical (Dolby Digital), Power.

    The High-Definition Multimedia Interface (HDMI) connector with High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection (HDCP) is the only digital video output on the HD TiVo. Component video is high definition but not actually digital. An HDMI cable is included, as is a DVI-to-HDMI adapter.

    NOTE: HDTVs with HDMI or DVI ports that are not running HDCP may not receive a picture through the HDMI port for certain PPV and sports programming at the broadcaster's discretion.

    [size=+1]What output formats/resizing does this DirecTV HD TiVo support?[/size]

    The DirecTV HD TiVo always displays programming at the selected output resolution. If the TiVo is set to output 1080i, then 720p shows (from ABC or ESPN) will be converted to 1080i prior to display. If you wish, and your HDTV does a better job natively displaying 720p, then you may change the output resolution to 720p when watching 720p material (there is, unfortunately, no on-screen indication of the source material's format).

    NOTE: There is no "native" mode where the output format is automatically switched to match the source material.

    You can change the output format the TiVo is using through a Setup menu or by simply pressing the UP arrow on the remote while watching a program. The output resolutions the TiVo will toggle between are 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i.

    NOTE: DirecTV HD TiVos WILL NOT output a composite (S-Video/yellow RCA) signal simultaneously with an HD signal (Downconversion). Don't throw away that standard DirecTV TiVo just yet!

    DirecTV HDTiVos can only display a standard definition picture (over S-Video or Composite video outputs) if the TiVo is set to 480i display.

    DirecTV HDTiVos have Stretch Modes allowing you to display 16:9 or 4:3 material stretched to fit 16:9 Widescreen HDTVs or 4:3 digital TVs. There are no zoom/crop/justify (aka "coke bottle") modes but these may be added later in software upgrades.

    [size=+1]Will the DirecTV HD TiVos support Home Media Option and Networking?[/size]

    DirecTV HD TiVos run a variant of the same 3.1 software seen on the current DirecTV TiVos. Neither version 4.0 of the software nor Home Media Option networked media features are expected.

    [size=+1]Where can I see a demo of the DirecTV HR10-250 with TiVo?[/size]


    [size=+1]What hardware do I need from DirecTV?[/size]

    Most DirecTV customers have a round dish with a single dual LNBF 'head'. This enables them to receive programming from DirecTV's main satellite positioned at the 101 degrees.

    HDTV, Spanish, and Chinese programming all require an elliptical (oval) dish with 2 or 3 LNBF 'heads'. This adds the ability to receive programming from DirecTV's three MPEG-2 satellites at 101, 110, and 119 degrees. Older DirecTV elliptical dishes come with 2 LNBFs 'heads' (101 and 119) and a space in between. A 'Sat C Kit' will give your older dish the ability to see 110.

    Phase III DirecTV elliptical dishes have the circuitry necessary to receive all 3 satellites sealed inside the 'arm' of the dish. DirecTV enthusiasts have also been known to use 3 separate round dishes, each pointed at 101, 110, and 119 degree positions!

    You can also use the new 5LNB Ka/Ku 'superdish' from DirecTV with the HR10-250 HD TiVo, but you will not be able to record any high definition channels which are in MPEG-4 format (specifically local channels and eventually the entire lineup of HDTV channels on DirecTV).

    DirecTV HDTV programming at 110:
    ESPN HD, ESPN2 HD, Discovery HD, HDNet Movies, Showtime HD

    DirecTV HDTV programming at 119:
    HDNet, HBO HD, HD Pay-per-view


    All elliptical dishes either have a 4x4 multiswitch bolted onto the back of the dish (101/119), or integrated into the arm of the dish (Phase III).

    The FOUR wires that come out of the dish are all "switched" outputs which means that any of the 4 wires can see either side of any of the 3 satellites.

    This is why you cannot use a splitter, because signal tones and voltages are sent up the wire FROM the DirecTV receiver TO the dish (or multiswitch) asking for the satellite feed they need to display the requested channel.

    To take full advantage of a DirecTV with TiVo or DirecTV HD TiVo receiver/recorder, you must have TWO wires from the dish/multiswitch connected to them. Ordinary DirecTV receivers each require ONE wire from the dish/multiswitch.

    1 room wired for HD (less trouble, more economical)
    Using a 2xX multiswitch to provide the 101 satellite to certain receivers and still having 2 outputs which can see all 3 satellites (101/110/119).

    All rooms wired for HD (future proof)
    Using a cascading 4x8 multiswitch to provide 8 outputs which can see all 3 satellites (101/110/119).

    A DirecTV with TiVo HDTV receiver and the appropriate dish are the only equipment you need to receive and record the HDTV programming offered by DirecTV.

    [size=+1]What DirecTV HDTV packages are available?[/size]

    plus ESPN 2!

    DirecTV customers with the HBO and Showtime packages can (with an HDTV receiver and the right dish) also receive the corresponding HBO HD and/or Showtime HD channel.

    DirecTV also offers a premium package of HDTV channels for $9.99. This presently includes HDNet, HDNet Movies, Discovery HD, ESPN HD, and ESPN 2 HD. Subscribers to NFL Sunday Ticket and/or NBA HDTV will get to see selected games in HD on those channels but may need to purchase the exhorbitant NFL Sunday Ticket SUPERFAN add-on package. And finally, Spice TV now presents selected adult video entertainment in High Definition on DirecTV's PPV channel.

    DirecTV offers local networks in High Definition using the new MPEG-4 format which cannot be viewed or recorded on any TiVo device.

    DirecTV offers CBS HD New York and Los Angeles to certain customers who qualify. If you currently receive CBS as a 'Distant Local' from New York or Los Angeles, then you qualify for CBS-HD NY/LA from DirecTV.

    Also, if you live in one of the following markets, you may also qualify for CBS-HD NY/LA from DirecTV: Austin, Baltimore, Boston, Chicago, Dallas, Denver, Detroit, Los Angeles, Marquette, Miami, Minneapolis, New York, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Salt Lake City, San Francisco, and Green Bay.

    Also, if you live in one of the following markets, you may also qualify for Fox-ED NY/LA from DirecTV: Atlanta, Austin, Birmingham, Boston, Chicago, Cleveland, Dallas, Dallas, Denver, Detroit, Greensboro, Houston, Kansas City, Los Angeles, Memphis, Milwaukee, New York, Philadelphia, Phoenix, Salt Lake City, St. Louis, Tampa, and Washington DC.

    [ More Info... ]
  7. feldon23

    feldon23 MythBuster

    Mar 13, 2001
    Coming out of extreme lurking just to update this old FAQ.

    Hopefully a moderator can rename the thread to:
    ** DirecTV HD TiVo HR10-250 Legacy FAQ **

    and then someone can create a new FAQ about the DirecTV HD TiVo THR22.
  8. timth30

    timth30 New Member

    Dec 9, 2011
    what is HD TiVo And HD DirecTV TiVo FAQ TiVo Community
  9. sk33t3r

    sk33t3r New Member

    Jul 9, 2003
    I called DTV the other day to replace a standard receiver and inquired about the THR22 and was told I could get it, and I am NOT in one of the testing markets. Problem is I just ordered my son a hd receiver non dvr and havent activated it yet, so im thinking about returning it to upgrade to a THR22
  10. picardone

    picardone New Member

    Feb 18, 2012
    If I have 2 direct tv tivo units would I be able to watch something off of the play list on the other tivo unit. I also have a series 2 tivo will that share the playlist to the direct tv tivos and visa versa.
  11. litzdog911

    litzdog911 TechKnow Guide

    Oct 18, 2002
    No. DirecTV/Tivo DVRs do not have the "Whole Home DVR" feature.
  12. sjberra

    sjberra New Member

    May 16, 2005
  13. higcom

    higcom New Member

    Mar 15, 2013
    Can anyone provide the code to remove the parental password on the Philips Direct Tv with Tivo DSR 708? Thanks, Frank
  14. stevel

    stevel Dumb Blond TC Club

    Aug 23, 2000
    My understanding is that there is no code. Instead, you call DirecTV, verify that you are the subscriber and they can cause a signal to be sent to remove the password. You may have to push this through various CSRs until you find one that understands the issue (and that it is a TiVo.)
  15. litzdog911

    litzdog911 TechKnow Guide

    Oct 18, 2002
    Steve's correct. There's no "code". You must call DirecTV and request that they reset the password. And you'll need to prove that you're the account holder.
  16. fa_gsg

    fa_gsg New Member

    Oct 26, 2013
    I am having Pixelation on Channel 14 (Sommet) and no programme info this has been reported to Tivo support initially a replacement box was supplied but still having the same issue. this pixelation also occurs sometimes with Ch 3 (TVNZ3) but the programme guide IS available
    I also have a TV with a built in "freeview" tuner which is both very clear and also has the programme guide for Ch 14 without using the tivo box.
    I have:
    Scanned for channels
    and added CH 14 as the initial scans do not pick up Ch 14.
    I am still awaiting a call back from Support (10 days now)
    Any suggestions
  17. litzdog911

    litzdog911 TechKnow Guide

    Oct 18, 2002
    You probably wanted to post this in the NZ/Australia Tivo Forum ....
  18. stevel

    stevel Dumb Blond TC Club

    Aug 23, 2000
    I am 99% sure that dantruong is a spammer, trying to get his post count up. Look at his other posts.
  19. litzdog911

    litzdog911 TechKnow Guide

    Oct 18, 2002
    I suspect you're correct.

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