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** HD TiVo and HD DirecTV TiVo FAQ **

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by feldon23, Jan 1, 2004.

  1. bobinalaska

    bobinalaska New Member

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    Hello Listers,
    I would like to ADD an HR20-700 with my hr10_250 to the same TV. Can I split the sat signal coming in or do need to run an extra set of inputs from the switch?
    Thanks for all your help.
    Bob
     
  2. dswallow

    dswallow Save the Moderatоr TCF Club

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    You need to run another set of cables from the multiswitch.
     
  3. bobinalaska

    bobinalaska New Member

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    I maxed out on the 10 way is there a way to split the satellite inputs to allow for another switch?
     
  4. bigpuma

    bigpuma Active Member

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    What do you mean 10 way? Do you have a multiswitch with 10 outputs?

    Anyway you can take 4 of the outputs from a multiswitch and input it into another multiswitch to get more outputs. This assumes your multiswitches are cascadable. You might want to detail your installation so we can help you.
     
  5. rld1015

    rld1015 New Member

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    Would you guys see if I have this right for a change in my installation?

    Currently I have a single LNB dish with one cable coming in at the back corner of my house. Also have a cable run from here for external antenna. This cable is not being used now. Both cables come from the back corner of the house to a distribution point in the attic just above the garage. From the distribution point I have I two cables run to each room, originally intended for 1 OTA and 1 sat/dvr feed. Currently have RS xx120 OTA antenna in the attic. Going to our main TV (on an inside wall) I use 1 cable for the attic antenna and 1 cable for the feed from the single LNB dish going to just 1 input of my 10-250, losing the ability to record two shows at once. I do not get locals from Direct. OTA analog signal are decent considering we are 13 and 36 miles (and slight difference in direction) from the transmitter, but I cannot turn the antenna to get digital from all stations. If I turn to get good digital from one I lose the other. If I try to compromise, I get drop outs from both directions. Have tried an amplifier, but no help. I suspect multipath issues but I can't move the antenna around in the attic enough to help.

    What I think I want to do is throw in the towell on the local Digital and get local from Direct as well the new HD channels and be able to record two programs at once.

    Am I correct that I would need four cables from the entry point to my distribution point and put the multiswitch at that location? And then use the two existing cables to each TV/DVR? If I wanted OTA then I would need to fish a third cable to each TV. Running 4 cables from the old entry point or a new entry point to my distribution point would be a real pain but doable. I think this would be easier than running new cables from the entry point to each room. The main tv is on an inside wall and fishing a new cable there would be more that a real pain but possible I guess. Not sure I would still need OTA if I get the locals from Direct.

    Sorry this was so long. Any help would be appreciated.
     
  6. PortlandPaw

    PortlandPaw Woodstock-era Hacker

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    You're on the right track, but be careful what kind of cable is already in place for your OTA...it may be RG59 which is not acceptable for satellite. It has to be at least RG6. They look almost the same and you may have to carefully examine the printing on the cable to identify.

    Don't try to assume away the difference...I discovered that using a 3' length of RG59 between the wall and the TiVo (RG6 for the rest of the run) made the difference between receiving Bravo and other stations and not receiving them. Almost made the difference in our marriage!

    Also, you don't need as many cables. Get 5 X 8 switch which has inputs for the four satellite cables and one OTA. Then run two cables to each TV. The OTA gets distributed along with the satellite signal. At each TV you use a diplexer (NOT a splitter!) on one of the lines to separate the OTA from satellite signals and run cables to the two appropriate inputs on your TiVo.
     
  7. rld1015

    rld1015 New Member

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    Thanks !
    All cable is RG 6. I put it in myself back before I had heard of multiple cables being required from the dish. I thought I was doing good at the time by running two cables from the entry point to the distribution point and two cables from distribution point to each tv location. Boy was I wrong!
    I will be getting a 5 LNB dish I guess. Will Direct run the 4 cables in the attic to the distribution point for the multiswitch or will I have to do that? Also will the multiswitch be ok in the attic? It gets pretty hot up there. Sounds like if I use the diplexers as you mention I will be ok with the 2 existing cables to each tv.
    Thanks a lot for the help !!!!
     
  8. Tivo_60

    Tivo_60 NY State of Mind

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    From the first post in this thread:

    Does this mean that you can view the new mpeg-4 channels ? If yes, then this seems to contradict another statement in the same post:

    So, what's the true status please ?
     
  9. newsposter

    newsposter Poster of News

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    no mpeg4 can be seen in any way whatsoever on the HDtivo.
     
  10. Tivo_60

    Tivo_60 NY State of Mind

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    I had a feeling that would be the answer. So why are people buying the HR10-250's on Ebay, at any price?. Hardly seems worth it to receive only 10-15 HD channels now that 75, and counting, are available.
     
  11. dswallow

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    For one, many people view most content from over-the-air channels, especially the major networks, and that's not going away no matter what DirecTV shuffles around on their satellites.

    While it might be necessary to have an HR20 or HR21 for some channels, they can certainly supplement rather than replace HR10's.
     
  12. newsposter

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    personally i use OTA a lot and it's well worth it for 4 tuners on my 2 units. Then i use HR20 for all the new HD exclusively. Plus it fits a heck of a lot of SD on it. I never even had an HD pack until i got my hr20 last month. Didnt miss the mpeg2 HD stuff at all from satellite.
     
  13. Tivo_60

    Tivo_60 NY State of Mind

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    Ok, thanks to both of you. I have been on the fence now that Verizon Fios cables have been on our street since July, but not yet activated.
    I've been looking for a short terrm solution for hd content (I do have OTA) without a commitment and or lease obligation and was considering the low investment HR10-250 alternative. May do it now it spite of the limited ch availability.
     
  14. newsposter

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    well 2 yr commit is not a short term solution with HDtivo. you cant get out of that.
     
  15. tfederov

    tfederov M GO BLUE!!!

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    Check out my sig for a high level comparison between the HR10 and the HR2x. It also has DISH ViP 622 and 722 in there as well. Hope it's helpful.
     
  16. Tivo_60

    Tivo_60 NY State of Mind

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    How does activating a used/owned receiver add a commitment to an existing 4yr account ?

    tfederov:yes, that comparison is very helpful. The one thing I've heard, but can't confirm, is that the 20 can only pause (90 min) on one tuner. Is that true?
     
  17. newsposter

    newsposter Poster of News

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    I'm pretty sure activation of any Advanced receiver adds 2 years starting today. In other words, restarts the clock on any other commitments you have. Call to be sure.
     
  18. Tivo_60

    Tivo_60 NY State of Mind

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    I called and there is no additional commitment in activating a receiver as described.
     
  19. newsposter

    newsposter Poster of News

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    did i read you correctly that you want to buy an HDtivo off ebay then activate it? If so, then i stand by my 1st answer that there is a commitment for 2 years. If not, then retract my statement :)

    Id email directv and ask them so you have this in print. I'd hate to see you screwed by an uninformed CSR.
     
  20. dswallow

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    They will let you get away with no commitment extension when activating an owned HR10-250.
     

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