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** HD TiVo and HD DirecTV TiVo FAQ **

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by feldon23, Jan 1, 2004.

  1. feldon23

    feldon23 MythBuster

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    I really hope we see a TiVo Series 3 for DirecTV.

    I tinkered with the $800 cable TiVo Series 3 at Best Buy. Too bad you can't do anything but watch the 120 second clip. I wanted to go through the menus and play back example shows.

    Chatted up the Best Buy employee. He said they are selling at a decent clip. I asked him if the people who buy them are already very knowledgeable about them before they buy them and he said oh yes. I mentioned CableCard to him and that they require 2 cards from Time Warner, at which point the TiVo is actually functioning as its own cable box. He had no clue of course. ;)
     
  2. Silo24X

    Silo24X New Member

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    Whole House Video Issue:

    Well that seems to solve 95% of my initial whole house video issues.

    With the limited drive size of the stock HD Tivo, our other DirecTiVos and our travel schedule - what we record on that Tivo will be "sit down and watch" programs rather than the "walk around the house" variety. With the exception of visiting the kitchen/bar which has the 2nd plasma.

    I bought a component video and digital audio selector with two outputs so that took care of seeing HDTV programming on the two plasma screens via component.

    Then on the few instances where one of us wanted to finish watching a program in another room, the one watching the plasma would just have to watch the 480 signal.

    Not a perfect solution and one I hope gets addressed in the next version, but workable for now.
     
  3. slocko

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    are you serious? when is this expected to happen?

     
  4. dswallow

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    It CAN'T happen before late 2007, when DirecTV's 2 satellites capable of national coverage in the Ka-band should be launched and operating. Once that milestone is reached, it probably WON'T happen for some time, probably at least another year, since it'll affect current HD subscribers who do not yet have a 5-LNB Ka-band dish or Ka-band/MPEG4 HD receivers; it'll simply take time for DirecTV to get those changed out whenever they decide to begin to force the issue.

    So while it might happen as soon as early 2008, I doubt it'll happen until late 2008 or 2009 at the earliest.

    And if anything happens to prevent both of the new satellites being launched in 2007 from operating fully, then expect a further delay on this timetable.
     
  5. Paul Wozniak

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    Why would Direct move these signals? The space is already allocated where they are. They can add the mpeg 4 signal for HBO, etc... on the new birds without having to discontinue the old signals.
     
  6. dswallow

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    There will be a time when they want to reclaim that bandwidth for other uses, but they'll have to balance that with the need/desire for current customers with non-mpeg4 HD equipment to receive those channels as well as the logistics of ensuring everyone has ample time to upgrade their equipment and dish before turning it off.
     
  7. worc33

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    I'm a DirecTV subscriber - looking to upgrade to HD. I'm a TiVO devotee and from this forum it's clear the new DirecTV HD DVR is a disaster. I'd like to get a HR10-250 in the secondary market but I need to clarify these two problems - this thread has been helpful but its a little bit above my technical understanding.

    1) Will I be able to get my local affiliates in HD with the HR 10-250?
    2) Will some HD channels (eg, HBO) not be available on the HR 10-250 in the future?

    Can anyone clarify this? First is a much bigger issue for the time being. Any other recommendations for a TiVO user who wants to get DirecTV HD?

    thank you.
     
  8. dswallow

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    1) Only NYC and LA major networks (ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX) are available in HD over MPEG2/Ku-band satellites that the HR10-250 could receive; the HR10-250 can also tune digital ATSC broadcasts if you have an antenna, and that'd let you record all the stations you can receive, not just the major networks.

    2) Sooner or later the HD MPEG-2 channels will be cut off and become MPEG-4/Ka-band only. Probably not for at least 1 to 2 years, but there will come a time. The HR10-250 will always work for SD Ku-band channels and OTA digital (HD and otherwise) broadcasts.
     
  9. worc33

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    Would an antenna allow me to receive the Boston networks in HD? Would I be able to integrate that feed into the HR10-250 or would I have to switch to another Video input (eg, VIDEO 1 on my Sony TV) whenever I want to watch broadcasts in HD? I dont mind spending some $$ on equipment but I also dont want a hassle once its all installed.

    Could you define what an ATSC broadcast is?
     
  10. A J Ricaud

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    Hacienda...
    Go to antennaweb.org and enter the info requested. It will tell you if you can receive HD OTA broadcasts and will recommend an antenna type.

    Assuming you can receive them, the OTA HD channels will be integrated in the HR10-250's program guide. You will not have to change inputs on your TV. You will have to re-run guided setup to tell the HR10-250 to use both antenna and satellite.

    ATSC means digital transmission.
     
  11. dswallow

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    Local digital television stations received over an antenna are fully integrated with everything the HR10-250 does; they're part of the guide; they're part of all recording options; they're directly tunable by channel number; etc. It's just they are received via a local antenna instead of via a satellite dish. If there's no issues receiving the signal in your geographic location, they'll be just like any other DirecTV channel on the HR10-250.
     
  12. Anubys

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    maybe you should try other forums...I would not call the new HD DVR a disaster...since it's not a Tivo unit, this is not the forum to use to do your research on it...try DBStalk
     
  13. Jan 1, 2007 #1273 of 1440
    aaafence rider

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    Can anybody tell me how to check much recording capacity is left on my HR10-250
     
  14. Jan 1, 2007 #1274 of 1440
    jhays

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    The only way with an unhacked unit is to activate Tivo Suggestions. If you have several pages of Suggestions, you have plenty of room. If Suggestions are down to less than a page, you are running out of space.
     
  15. Jan 1, 2007 #1275 of 1440
    aaafence rider

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    I am considering buying another HR10-250 for a second HD hookup in the house in another room; currently I get the local cannels in HD on my other HR10-250. (I live in NY); Considering I will have to pay 4-5 hundred for a second HR10-250, does anybody have an opinion on whether I should lay out the cash or wait for the MPeg-4 equipment to come around (I have read posts that the HR10-250 will be rendered disabled from a local channel HD standpoint); Also, is the Series 3 the equivalent to the HR10-250? (sorry if this last part of the question is dumb)..thanks for input
     
  16. Jan 2, 2007 #1276 of 1440
    A J Ricaud

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    Hacienda...
    If you are receiving your locals via satellite, then, yes, locals will eventually be broadcast only in MPEG-4 format, which the HR10-250 cannot receive. Some posts indicate that this will happen sometime in 2007. Others say later, but no official word yet.

    If you can receive locals OTA with an external antenna, then you can continue to do so with the HR10-250.

    The Series 3 Tivo is for cable/OTA only.
     
  17. Jan 3, 2007 #1277 of 1440
    hfhlt004

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    I was one who initially regretted getting the Directv HR20, but after about 3 months, this box is improving almost up to the standards for DirecTIVO. I figured if I were to stay with Directv, I would have to adapt. I also like the greater recording capacity of the new box.
     
  18. Jan 6, 2007 #1278 of 1440
    kenferm

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    Just to clarify - regarding the ability in the NYC/NJ area (i live 25 miles outside of NYC), if I bought the HR10-250, I would be able to get local channels in HD using MPEG2/KU-band satellites - the question I have is whether that utitlizes the 3LNB dish or do I have to get the 5LNB dish for this? Also, am I buying this service through Tivo or through Direct TV??
     
  19. Jan 6, 2007 #1279 of 1440
    stevel

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    If you qualify for NYC locals, theoretically you can get the four major networks in HD with an HR10 and a 3-LNB dish. Whether or not DirecTV will let you do so is another question. All of your service is through DirecTV. TiVo is a service contractor to DirecTV and you do not have any direct dealings with them. There are other HD locals you will not be able to receive with the HR10.
     
  20. Jan 6, 2007 #1280 of 1440
    dswallow

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    The 3-LNB dish is all you'll need. "Local channels in HD" is just ABC, CBS, FOX and NBC. No PBS, CW, MTN or anything else in HD.

    But at 25 miles from NYC, you'd probably do rather well with an antenna, too... even an indoor one.
     

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