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** HD TiVo and HD DirecTV TiVo FAQ **

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by feldon23, Jan 1, 2004.

  1. Oct 5, 2005 #1001 of 1440

    oldskoolboarder New Member

    Jul 8, 2003
    Bay Area, CA
    Mine's had the same problem recently. I'm guessing it's the hard drive since I'm recording so many HD premieres, more HD shows than usual.
  2. Oct 6, 2005 #1002 of 1440
    Big Daddy P

    Big Daddy P New Member

    Jul 21, 2004
    South Florida
    Attenuator made it worse. Maybe I'll ask D* for a replacement box on the odd chance I've got a bad one.
  3. Oct 9, 2005 #1003 of 1440

    feldon23 MythBuster

    Mar 13, 2001
    Houston, TX
    Until a HD TiVo product moves out of the vapourware stage, I will not be changing the cable/standalone section.
  4. Oct 9, 2005 #1004 of 1440
    Tom in OH

    Tom in OH New Member

    Mar 12, 2004
    Shelby, OH
    same here(more HD than usual with premieres)...happened again yesterday. That's 3 times in a week(while watching). I'm leaning toward the corrupted show theory. Several shows in the past week have been flaky with pixelation, dropouts, audio pops.
  5. Oct 9, 2005 #1005 of 1440

    mercurial Retro-Av

    Oct 17, 2002
    Caraleigh, NC
    We had that for a while and then it seemed to clear up. I feared the drive was going bad and was debatting replacing it with a dual-drive config since I haven't gotten around to upgrading it yet but it cleared up... <fingers crossed>
  6. Oct 9, 2005 #1006 of 1440

    feldon23 MythBuster

    Mar 13, 2001
    Houston, TX
    Well, I am trying to update this FAQ, but of course David Bott had continued to tighten the forum restrictions for no apparent reason. I had to remove essential images/logos from my FAQ posting in order to be able to update it.

    This just adds insult on top of the ridiculous Signature restrictions foisted upon us about a year ago. This forum is becoming more and more difficult to use. I visit maybe every 3-4 months to see if this FAQ needs updating. It would be a great forum if management would step aside and let it.

    I fully expect a ban because that's what usually happens to helpful people here after we try to improve the forum to no avail for several years (i.e. Otto).
  7. MozAngeles

    MozAngeles New Member

    Oct 15, 2005
    "DirecTV TiVos and DirecTV HD TiVos will continue to function for an indefinite period but DirecTV HD TiVos will not be able to receive the HDTV programming DirecTV intends to roll out this fall and through 2006 and 2007. This is because this new programming is in MPEG-4 and will be broadcast from different satellite locations, neither of which the TiVo models can tune to."

    PLEASE tell me the $1000 receiver I bought less than a year ago to record HD programs on DirectTV is not now being phased out? It's branded as a DirecTV HD DVR, yet it will not receive the additional programming the new satellites will bring? The whole reason I purchased the receiver and went with DirecTV rather than ZOOM was because of the additional HD channels that were coming in late '05 and 2006. Now you are saying I won't be able to receive them?

    Please tell me I just read this wrong...


  8. Rottluver

    Rottluver New Member

    Dec 6, 2004
    Seattle, WA
    I hate to say it, but I was reading in Consumer Reports latest issue that there is a new form of HD programming coming out (MPEG-4?) and they recommended not buying anything until it is all out and available as the new stuff isn't compatible and/or is significantly better (I don't recall specifically which one it was).............sorry dude. :(
  9. Randyman...

    Randyman... New Member

    Feb 17, 2004
    Houston, TX

    I am about ready to buy a 37" 1080-p HDTV (dual purpose PC monitor and main HDTV monitor), and I want to upgrade my current SD DirecTV TiVo HDVR2 to the HR10-250 HDTV DirecTV Tivo. I am just now learning about DTV's plan to roll out MPEG-4 programming, and the HR10-250's incompatibility with this format. This seems to throw a big monkey wrench into my plan :( .

    The HDTV monitor I am looking at really needs a DVI or HDMI signal to look its best (the analog ins are not so good), so I really need a TiVo with DVI or HDMI outputs, and being a happy DirecTV customer, I had really hoped I could stick with the integrated HDTV TiVo's simplicity (no analog signal degredation - all digital signals, and a DVR, 4 Tuners, HDTV Upconversion, and Digital Audio all in one box - hard to beat that).

    What - EXACLY - will the MPEG-4 affect (locals, movie channels, all programming - what?)? I live in Houston, so I imagine my "Off-Air Local HDTV" reception would be pretty good if this would help recoup the omission of MPEG-4 on the HR10-250. TBH - I'll still watch 85% or more of my TV in upconverted "SDTV" (like Simpsons, Family Guy, etc), and I also need a good DVR unit to do 480P or higher HDTV "Upconversion" so my new TV looks its best (its internal upconversion is not the best).

    I am literally at the buying stage, and now I find this out. What is your reccomendation for a un-familiar HDTV + DirecTV TiVo fanatic? I love my Hughes HDVR2 SD DirecTV TiVo (120GB HD) with all of my heart - and I would LOVE to retain it's all-in-one approach for a HDTV TiVo with digital video outs. I am willing to compromise a bit of available HDTV content for the AWSOME "all-in-one" integration this box can offer.

    Any words of wisdom? I'm itching to buy very soon (from now until Thanksgiving).

    I sincerely appreciate any input. :cool:
  10. jberger

    jberger Member

    Jul 9, 2001
    Just go ahead and buy the existing HDTivo, DirecTV will upgrade you to the new units once everything is in place and functional.

    Don't get caught up in waiting for the "next big thing", because there is always something to wait for. The existing unit offers the best HD OTA/DirecTV integration available today, who knows how long it will take DTV to actually get everything in place and actually began the cut over to MPEG-4.

    If you need something that have a great internal scaler, you might want to look at DVDO's lineup. The DTIVO doesn't have the best scaler I've seen, but the pure digital signal path does help even on SD material.
  11. Randyman...

    Randyman... New Member

    Feb 17, 2004
    Houston, TX
    WOW! Thanks for te quick reply, jberger. I feel better about this now, and I think I will go ahead and proceed as planned. The complete integration of the HD TiVo is so irresistable!!! Having a 37" 1080-p PC monitor will be pretty kewl as well!

    As long as the HR10-250's Upconversion looks at least as good as my current SD HDVR-2 via S-Video, I'll be tickled to death!

    Thanks a ton for putting my concerns to rest. :cool:
  12. HDLouco

    HDLouco New Member

    Mar 26, 2004
    I ordered my HD Tivo in January of 2004 and received it in June of the same year. I paid $999 minus the $100 discount plus $55 for 2-day shipping. I have never been happier in my life! I love my HD Tivo so much that I just ordered a second one from Directv for $299 minus $100 rebate and minus 6 months of HD Pagacke. I can't wait to get my second unit on October 21st (next Friday) because today, October 16th, I took delivery of what I think is the same monitor you are thinking of buying. I am talking about the Westinghouse 37-inch HD monitor. I have not used my first HD Tivo's HDMI output so far because my old HDTV is an RCA 38-inch set that has only analog component inputs. I am looking forward to evaluating the possible improvement in video quality by using an all-digital system with the Westinghouse monitor and the new HD Tivo next Friday. Good luck to you.
  13. feldon23

    feldon23 MythBuster

    Mar 13, 2001
    Houston, TX
    It is. This was announced several months ago. I just formalized it by including it in this FAQ.

    Also correct.
    Correct. a non-TiVo replacement DVR will be made available in summer 2006. For an annoying 6+ months, the new HD channels will be available but not recordable.

    DirecTV is handling this ALL WRONG.

    If it's any consolation, I'm hearing rumors that DirecTV will replace your DTiVo or HDTV TiVo for free with their new DirecTV/NDS DVRs.

    We have NO IDEA how all this MPEG-4 stuff is going to shake out. We may need new multiswitches, more/new wiring, new dishes, etc.
  14. Tlamb

    Tlamb Audio Dude

    Oct 16, 2005
    I think my HD TIVO is dying, how long should a Clear & Delete take? It has already been almost 10hrs!!! Thanks for the help.
  15. Randyman...

    Randyman... New Member

    Feb 17, 2004
    Houston, TX
    You guessed it! :) Westinghouse 37" 1080-p with Dual DVI (w/HDCP) inputs. I'm just trying to find one on display so I can mess with it, and make sure I will be satisfied with the black levels and general PQ compared to my Wega 27" Tube. As long as it is not horrible, I'm willing to compromise slightly on the Black levels and PQ, and I get a killer PC monitor out of the deal, too! Let me know how you like yours once you get it all tweaked out.

    I'll probably look into buying the HR10-250 today (any links on killer deals?), and buy the 37" TV ASAP. I'm really hoping DTV will follow through with the replacement HDTV DVR's. Fingers crossed. Thanks for you guy's info.

  16. Anubys

    Anubys All About Footwork

    Jul 16, 2004
    I have one with two 250 GB hard drives. My C&D took about 3 hours.
  17. Tlamb

    Tlamb Audio Dude

    Oct 16, 2005
    FYI - Clear & Delete never finished - new hard drive arrived from Weaknees - replaced old drive in about 10 minutes - so far so good!!!!! :)
  18. tall1

    tall1 New Member

    Oct 12, 2004
    twin cities
    That seals it for me, anything consumer reports recommends is bogus so I feel even more confident about my decision to purchase an HD Tivo now.
  19. TXTivoUser

    TXTivoUser Jeep Ninja

    Nov 27, 2002
    Denton, Texas
    Editing to update:

    Had a quick question about setup and recording...

    1 - If I set up a recording for a show that I can get in both HD (OTA) and SD (D*), how does Tivo handle that? I obviously would like it to record in HD if it can. Is there any logic to switch to SD recording if I'm having signal issues on OTA?

    Still need ideas on this...

    2 - I've already got an OTA antenna in my attic that goes to my TV that has a built in tuner. Can I use that antenna and split that signal so that I can still use the built in antenna plus let Tivo have access to record on OTA HD?

    - Turns out I found out that this can be done via a simple splitter. Maybe the installer will have one to give me.

  20. such

    such New Member

    Mar 24, 2004
    When you set up a recording/season pass selected either by time, or by title, it is recorded on the channel you specify (the HD or SD channel).

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