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** HD TiVo and HD DirecTV TiVo FAQ **

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by feldon23, Jan 1, 2004.

  1. Jan 6, 2004 #81 of 1440
    Darin

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    Although I haven't looked at that announcement in a long time, IIRC, even back then it wasn't expected until 4th qtr 2003. The story I've heard is that it's late because at the time of CES last year, it was not planned to be able to record two streams at one time. Those of us who have gotten used to two tuners made a big stink about it, so they had to do some redesign to add tuners and enable it to handle the bandwidth to process two HD streams at once (at the time of CES last year, they indicated bandwidth was the issue). So all things considered, I don't think it's THAT late.
     
  2. Jan 6, 2004 #82 of 1440
    BrettStah

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    Feldon, where did you hear that part about not being able to switch output formats with the remote? I've heard the opposite.
     
  3. Jan 6, 2004 #83 of 1440
    dfusfeld

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    I'm someone with no HD in any form - YET, so forgive me if this is a dumb question, but why would you even need to do this? Wouldn't you set your output format once and be done?
     
  4. Jan 6, 2004 #84 of 1440
    dswallow

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    In an ideal world, yes, you'd probably do this, or actually you might prefer to have the output automatically switch to whatever the source material actually is, avoiding any circuitry in the receiver that converts it from one resolution to another (presumably because you have some other device that does a better job at this).

    But in the real world, a lot of monitors are unable to manipulate (stretch or zoom) a 720p or 1080i signal. So someone desiring to zoom in on a letterboxed 4:3 signal to fill their 16:9 display, or to stretch the 4:3 signal across their 16:9 display can only do so when the signal coming into the display is 480i or 480p.
     
  5. Jan 6, 2004 #85 of 1440
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    Another reason would be if you had a high-end CRT display that could do multiple HD resolutions natively. If your projector could do both 720p and 1080i natively, then you'd want to output 720p for ABC and ESPN (and Fox later this year), but 1080i for the others. This would prevent any quality loss from converting to another resolution.

    But most of us have display devices that can only display one or the other natively, so it's usually set once and left alone.
     
  6. Jan 6, 2004 #86 of 1440
    BrettStah

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    I will need to be able to do this in order to be able to properly output to my channel modulator, which supplies up to 4 different things to other TVs in my house. There are IR extenders that send remote control signals back to the devices from those rooms, making it easy to watch anything from any Tivo from any room in the house.

    Unfortunately, the HD-Tivo will not output on the analog outputs while set to output a HD signal, so I'll need a way to switch to an analog output in order to watch something on a TV somewhere other than my main TV.
     
  7. Jan 6, 2004 #87 of 1440
    feldon23

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    Your cheapest solution is to buy a DirecTV TiVo for $70 and $5 a month.
     
  8. Jan 6, 2004 #88 of 1440
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    Theres no need for simultansous output now, as the reason for that (or one of the reasons) is so that you could record HD or regular rpogramming off of a HD rec onto a TiVo w/o switching the output manually.
     
  9. Jan 6, 2004 #89 of 1440
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    Theres no need for simultansous output now, as the reason for that (or one of the reasons) is so that you could record HD or regular rpogramming off of a HD rec onto a TiVo w/o switching the output manually.
     
  10. Jan 6, 2004 #90 of 1440
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    Theres no need for simultansous output now, as the reason for that (or one of the reasons) is so that you could record HD or regular rpogramming off of a HD rec onto a TiVo w/o switching the output manually.
     
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    BrettStah

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    Feldon, if I missed your reply I apologize, but did you see my question earlier in this thread about your statement regarding switching output formats only with the front panel buttons and not with the remote?
     
  13. Jan 6, 2004 #93 of 1440
    feldon23

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    Hi Brett,

    I haven't heard anything concrete. What I remember from early posts was that it was a switch on the front of the unit and could NOT be controlled by remote. Maybe I am completely mis-remembering. If this is in error, then I will correct it.

    Ok, I've updated the FAQ to explain the vagueness of this.
     
  14. Jan 6, 2004 #94 of 1440
    dswallow

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    Some time ago when that picture was first posted and I exclaimed how bad it is if there were no codes for it, someone chimed in saying there was a control on the remote to toggle through them. No word on if there's discrete codes to select a specific format (which I would really seriously hope they provide).
     
  15. Jan 7, 2004 #95 of 1440
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    Can you view 480p via component video?
     
  16. Jan 7, 2004 #96 of 1440
    feldon23

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    Component can carry 480p, 720p, and 1080i. Some home theater receivers cannot pass the entire frequency range and only work with 480p.

    Realize that early Component inputs were basically super S-Video or 480i.

    DVD players output 480p or better.
     
  17. Jan 7, 2004 #97 of 1440
    enodev

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    Thanks, but I understand all that. My question is will the HD Tivo run 480p through the component outputs? The original quote claimed in HD mode, all analog outputs were disabled.
     
  18. Jan 7, 2004 #98 of 1440
    dswallow

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    The capability of disabling analog output of high definition signals is present in HDCP, but 480p is not high definition. It's also not that the analog outputs would be completely disabled in such cases, but that the resolution would be reduced from high definition in such cases.
     
  19. Jan 7, 2004 #99 of 1440
    webboy1

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    Wrong some of us have a Zone 2 capable receiver which only accepts a analog signal. I for one like to have the sound on in the garage when i go for a beer or a smoke, let alone any other room in the house, or maybe the backyard where i have a clear shot of the plasma.

    No simultansous output is really gonna suck.
     
  20. Jan 7, 2004 #100 of 1440
    feldon23

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    Nobody said you won't get analog and digital audio at the same time. We're talking about video.
     

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